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    I know. So the question remains, why hasn't NQ made the same choice given how he clearly doesn't enjoy watching Arsenal, doesn't enjoy results whatever they are. Why bother?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    I've walked away from it
    Lots have on here actually. OK, I keep up with results here and there but not like I used to. I don't even know who we're playing next.
    Used to go to every home game. It is partly the Groundhog Day, partly just moving on in life.
    I don't think I'll ever be completely disconnected with it but if it gave me as much pain as it seems to give NQ I wouldn't watch it as closely as he seems to.
    We actually need more people to take this stance. The only way Wenger walks is if the fans really turn on him and stop supporting the club. Empty seats along with banners and protests. That's the only thing that would ruffle his feathers enough to walk and recognise his time is up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    I know. So the question remains, why hasn't NQ made the same choice given how he clearly doesn't enjoy watching Arsenal, doesn't enjoy results whatever they are. Why bother?
    Why would you assume that because you've made a choice that other people would as well

    Football is an addiction. I watch fewer and fewer games live, but I always need to know the score.

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    But that's up to him surely, an extreme analogy but a lot of addicts get no pleasure from the thing they are addicted to they just don't want to go through the withdrawl.

    In NQ's case i think he enjoys the banter with people on here, and actually so do I. From football from any topic you like I do enjoy arguing/debating with people on here because i'll give people here credit they don't sulk or go off in a huff if you dare to disagree with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    We actually need more people to take this stance. The only way Wenger walks is if the fans really turn on him and stop supporting the club. Empty seats along with banners and protests. That's the only thing that would ruffle his feathers enough to walk and recognise his time is up.
    Whilst i agree and i wish less people would turn up, i don't think anyone should be compelled to do so.

    I know you like Tim Stillman and i sometimes read his column, he is of the opinion that the majority of fans that go to the Emirates week in week out aren't the same voices on the fan forums, on twitter etc during the week (and i tend to think he's got a point, i don't think many of us on here are season ticket holders).

    Now this is not him or me saying the complaints are coming from people who aren't proper fans, it's just most of the Emirates crowd (and i say specifically the Emirates crowd) tend to be people who go to the Arsenal as a weekend routine, have their pie, buy their match day program and win, lose or draw go back and meet their mates or take the missus out for a meal without any further thought on the match.

    It's always going to be the away crowd that is the most boisterous and vocally disapproving (especially if they travel half way across the country to watch a load of dross)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    What do you follow Arsenal results for?
    Saves me from guessing. Sometimes guessing isn't 100% accurate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    He's a fan, when you love the club you still follow the results even when you know the writing is on the wall.
    Not a real fan though, like Ty or Chris Wenger. Real fans don't complain when their manager and the team is taking the piss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Saves me from guessing. Sometimes guessing isn't 100% accurate.
    I'm in a competition with my brother for picking Arsenal league results, 1 point for correct result, 2 for correct scoreline, this started with Palace game and so far i am ahead 3-2 (i predicted the draw with Bournemouth).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    Whilst i agree and i wish less people would turn up, i don't think anyone should be compelled to do so.

    I know you like Tim Stillman and i sometimes read his column, he is of the opinion that the majority of fans that go to the Emirates week in week out aren't the same voices on the fan forums, on twitter etc during the week (and i tend to think he's got a point, i don't think many of us on here are season ticket holders).

    Now this is not him or me saying the complaints are coming from people who aren't proper fans, it's just most of the Emirates crowd (and i say specifically the Emirates crowd) tend to be people who go to the Arsenal as a weekend routine, have their pie, buy their match day program and win, lose or draw go back and meet their mates or take the missus out for a meal without any further thought on the match.

    It's always going to be the away crowd that is the most boisterous and vocally disapproving (especially if they travel half way across the country to watch a load of dross)
    Everyone has the freedom to do as they please. That's not an attempt from me to sway anyone, just stating what I believe would rattle Wenger enough to walk.

    As for Tim Stillman, I respect his opinion on football and tactics but haven’t seen his views on the Emirates and fans. But even if that’s his view, I can’t really pay it too much attention because that discounts the guys on Arsenal fan TV like DT who are also on Twitter.

    But either way, I think it usually takes a brave few to get things rolling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Everyone has the freedom to do as they please. That's not an attempt from me to sway anyone, just stating what I believe would rattle Wenger enough to walk.

    As for Tim Stillman, I respect his opinion on football and tactics but haven’t seen his views on the Emirates and fans. But even if that’s his view, I can’t really pay it too much attention because that discounts the guys on Arsenal fan TV like DT who are also on Twitter.

    But either way, I think it usually takes a brave few to get things rolling.
    I don't think it does discount DT or the rest of the ArsenalFanTV crowd, but there are 60,000 give or take who turn up to the Emirates each week......how many of them are part of the hardcore fans group who go to all the away games as much as the home ones?.....2-3 thousand?.

    If you remove the amount of Tourist fans from the equation (token amount) and that leaves a lot of fans, now doubtless Stillman is basing his opinion on anecdotal evidence of the type of fans he sits around when he goes to the Emirates himself but i wouldn't be surprised if what he says does have a ring of truth to it.

    And i do think this sums up this reticence to protest at the ground, oh and just so there is no confusion i wasn't in anyway stating you did think people should be compelled to kick up a fuss.....i just think short of putting a rod up people's backsides (which is i think counter productive) I'm just not sure how you can create the atmosphere you (and to be fair I as well) am looking for at the Emirates.

    But hopefully i'm wrong.

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