debate doesn't = fact which seems to be the case for too many at the games. there's debate then there's hysteria which is what fans are boardering on and this is far from a crisis but when your head is invaded by so much football 'analysis' on tv, internet, radio etc then it just keeps it stirring. £100 for same old shite? winning most games and going home happy more often than not? that's what i mean about hysteria.