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    I understand that paying more for Carroll did than Barcelona did for David Villa seems ludricous but it is worth remembering Valencia were (and still are though not to the same extent) in debt, by a lot, as too are Barcelona. That's not even taking in to consideration as was mentioned previously how much more English players generally cost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost... View Post
    I understand that paying more for Carroll did than Barcelona did for David Villa seems ludricous but it is worth remembering Valencia were (and still are though not to the same extent) in debt, by a lot, as too are Barcelona. That's not even taking in to consideration as was mentioned previously how much more English players generally cost.
    Maybe, but that does not detract from the fact that Carroll's fee is currently the 8th largest of all time. The 7 players above him are Rondaldo, Ibrahimovic, Kaka, Torres, Zidane, Figo, and Crespo. What has Carroll done to justify being anywhere close to these guys in "valuation"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toronto Gooner View Post
    Maybe, but that does not detract from the fact that Carroll's fee is currently the 8th largest of all time. The 7 players above him are Rondaldo, Ibrahimovic, Kaka, Torres, Zidane, Figo, and Crespo. What has Carroll done to justify being anywhere close to these guys in "valuation"?
    He's English. This isn't a new phenomenon, it's crazy money but it has been like that for years. Anyway, the value to the selling club needs to be taken in to account. We might not consider Carroll on the level of those guys (and with good reason) but that doesn't mean Newcastle wouldn't want to be compensated as much as possible for sellling one of their most important players, not just for now but potentially for the future too. It just so happens he is English and with going from Prem to Prem, that's going to mean crazy money, relative to the ability of the player.

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    Don't forget it was the last day of the window (with Arry sniffing around) and Newcastle knew we were getting mega-money for Torres.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NGog Is Going View Post
    Don't forget it was the last day of the window (with Arry sniffing around) and Newcastle knew we were getting mega-money for Torres.
    And he was forced out because he didn't want to leave. I feel sorry for him, tbh. A better club, but he seemed happy where he was.
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    £35mill for Carroll will be chump change if he fires them into the CL and on into competition with Utd and Chelski at the top, which I fully expect to happen and at our expense. Carroll, if he fulfils his potential, will be a top, top PL striker - perfectly suited to this league. He's in sharp contrast to Suarez (so we'll see how that works out), who looks another top rate buy. Contrast these two to the shit we have, Chamakh, Bendtner. Yes we have RvP and we have Theo if Wenger would get a clue and play him up front, but with RvPs injury record and Theo blowing hot and cold and having failed to live up to his potential so far I'd much rather have the Liverpool pairing. RvP is the best of the bunch but has no viable strike partner. Basically Pool got two top strikers in return for Torres who didn't want to be there and hadn't delivered in months, plus a few quid on top. Great business and a real statement of intent.

    Dalglish will have been looking for very different players to the type we bring into Arsenal. I doubt he'd tolerate the lightweights we have here. I don't believe it's useful to compare the transfer policies of the two clubs because Dalglish has a grasp of the English game where plainly Wenger does not. I'd much rather have Dalglish as the manager too btw. Pool will easily finish above us next year unless they self-destruct in some manner. Even then, I doubt their self-destruct button is anywhere as potent as ours. Bottom line, the clubs spending the money are on the way up, stingy bastards like our board and Wenger have ensured we are on the way down.

    The money does count and it's not silly money if everyone bar us us doing it. We're the silly ones frankly, thinking we are somehow above it all. If that's the way football works in this country then that's the way it works, we either face it or carry on down the table. We used to be assured a top 2 finish, now we're talking about top 4, soon it will be top 6. That's the trend we're on and it's down to having ripped out the quality from the team and replaced it with cheap dross.
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    Apparently Spanish radio saying Aguero will join us after the Copa America for £37m.

    Crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    We used to be assured a top 2 finish, now we're talking about top 4, soon it will be top 6. That's the trend we're on and it's down to having ripped out the quality from the team and replaced it with cheap dross.
    Sorry, Niall, but that read like it was written by someone who started supporting Arsenal when Wenger joined and has never bothered to look back into Arsenal's history.
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    They cheat by spending more money than they have. Arsenal don't cheat. Which is a good thing, for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vpgreg View Post
    They cheat by spending more money than they have. Arsenal don't cheat. Which is a good thing, for me.
    Is it you Arsene? Spend some money you tight git

    Oh and actually we did bid for Jones - 16 M too - and it was accepted by Blackeye but the player wanted to stay oop norf
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