Great postOriginally Posted by Fist of Lehmann
Great post
You sure about that? Wenger's own words on the Rooney situation.Exactly, it is groundless but don’t let that stop the AW hate brigade here from trying to shift the blame on him. First of all, like you said Wenger does not conduct nor does he have the final say in such contract negotiations. I would’ve thought that Cashley’s case would’ve taught people something about the fallacy of such rationale, but no they never learn.
Secondly, I too recall reading that negotiations had started last year. So the club definitely did not leave it late to the last minute! It is most likely the board who wants to protect the wage structure in place and if a player keeps delaying signing the contract for a year what can the club do? How does anyone who’s not privy to such details know conclusively what’s going on and that it wasn’t the player who kept giving assurances that he would sign but has later gone back on his word?
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/...chester-unitedArsenal manager Arsene Wenger surprised Manchester United did not sit down earlier to negotiate contract with Wayne Rooney
'You are always in renegotiations', says boss
Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger has expressed surprise concerning the way Manchester United have dealt with Wayne Rooney's contract issues.
The 24-year-old has less than two-years remaining on his current deal at the club, amid reports that he has told Old Trafford bosses that he does not wish to sign a new one.
Wenger believes that this could only result in the player's value diminishing on the market, if United should at some point consider selling their star.
"I don’t know why [it has happened]," he said, according to the Daily Mail.
"When you sign a player for four years, for example, you have to extend the contract after two years.
"You have to negotiate after the first year. We have people who only negotiate contracts at our club and I come in when it is needed. When you have a professional squad, first-team squad plus players after 16, you have to renegotiate.
"You are always in renegotiations. If you want to keep a player, to protect the value of a player, you have to extend the contract."
The irony of it all. Now Man Utd have put themselves in a position to buy one of our best players because of this error.
He knows the situation and clubs shouldn't allow players to get down to two years on their contract. We've allowed Nasri to get down to 1 year! This makes him look really silly, especially if we lose him to Man U.
Last edited by Power n Glory; 09-06-2011 at 06:20 PM.
TBH Wenger should tell them £80 mill or fuck off tbh
Well if Nasri wants to leave to Utd, Utd has to pay top dollar for him. If they dont show up with the big money saying that they can sign him for free next season then be it. At that moment, I think AW should just bench him the entire season and get another player instead of him. Lets see which top club will come in for him next season when he hasnt kicked a ball the entire year.
It should be made clear- Fuck with the club, we fuck your career!
that says nothing about him having a final say and also reinforces that arsenal had an offer on the table for nasri since 2010
this!
That, or get Diaby to break his fucking leg.
Totally agree. Im sure City will be Linked with Samir Tommrow, If this makes AW sign big name players then so be it if not then fuck it tbh.
He says he comes in if needed. So what does that tell you? Do you think he's letting others handle this situation as his best player is considering a move to Man Utd? Don't be naive. He's involved in the talks and he firmly said he won't allow Nasri to move to Man Utd.
And so what if talks started in 2010. He has said a player shouldn't be allowed to get down to 2 years on their contract and that's the same point I made earlier in the thread. He's even says that you should renegotiate in the first year if a player is on a 4 year deal and Toronto Gooner said that was a bad business move earlier in the thread. Nasri has stalled on his contract, but the point is, why has he been allowed to get down to 1 year when we've been negotiating for such a long time? He even said Man U should have considered selling Rooney earlier and he had two years left on his deal. Again, Nasri has one year left and now we're considering a sale after his market valuation has dropped. Wenger knows the score but has failed to act. While this Rooney stuff was going on, we were in talks with Nasri and still hadn't wrapped up a deal but he's talking about another clubs business conducts as if they've done something wrong and he hasn't even got his own house in order. Don't you think that is silly?
I'm not saying Nasri is an angel. He's stalled and taken the piss, but Wenger and the club have failed to act even though they know what's right and makes sense business wise.
when needed, ie in a situation like now when there are difficulties. what was the CEO's remit when he joined? to take the responsibility away from the manager. do you believe the man heading up the business unit of the club would not have the final say? I think you are being naive really.
he said 'you have to extend the contract after two years' which they tried to do.
amazingly you are putting this at the door of the manager when there are others who do the job and make the final call. i guess it's easier to do that
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