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    Are we as a club really in a position to plead poverty with paying our stars premium wages when we have several squad members Diaby being the main example who are on 50K plus a week but spend more time on the treatment table than on the playing field?

    We should be more ruthless with players like Diaby and show them the door.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    Are we as a club really in a position to plead poverty with paying our stars premium wages when we have several squad members Diaby being the main example who are on 50K plus a week but spend more time on the treatment table than on the playing field?

    We should be more ruthless with players like Diaby and show them the door.

    I’ve got a bit of a problem with that attitude. He was injured playing for us. I think it’s our duty to try and get him back to full fitness. It may costs us but the kid can’t do anything else besides play football. He’s trained for this from youth. It’s not as if he can go and do something else. It was a cruel injury and maybe some sort of compensation should be paid out by opposing teams when a player is ruined like this. A 3 match ban is bullshit. In Dan Smith’s case, he didn’t even get a red card. Was he even booked? The FA need to look into this. They can dish out an 8 match ban for a racist but only 3 games for a reckless challenge that can end careers?

    £50k a week is a lot of money but regardless of how much he earns, I think it’s only right that a company picks up the medical bill if an employee is badly injured while at work. If a factory worker losses a limb on the job, it’s pretty cruel to tell them to piss off cause he’s no good to them anymore. I know football and manual labour are miles apart but it’s the same principle. We should do the best we can to get him back to his best. If we send him off to another club, at least make sure he has some sort of playing career left and it’s not some shitty short term deal where he’s hung out to dry after a year or so. Some people might not agree with this but if we were talking about anyone else besides a footballer, I think there would be a bit more sympathy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    I’ve got a bit of a problem with that attitude. He was injured playing for us. I think it’s our duty to try and get him back to full fitness. It may costs us but the kid can’t do anything else besides play football. He’s trained for this from youth. It’s not as if he can go and do something else. It was a cruel injury and maybe some sort of compensation should be paid out by opposing teams when a player is ruined like this. A 3 match ban is bullshit. In Dan Smith’s case, he didn’t even get a red card. Was he even booked? The FA need to look into this. They can dish out an 8 match ban for a racist but only 3 games for a reckless challenge that can end careers?

    £50k a week is a lot of money but regardless of how much he earns, I think it’s only right that a company picks up the medical bill if an employee is badly injured while at work. If a factory worker losses a limb on the job, it’s pretty cruel to tell them to piss off cause he’s no good to them anymore. I know football and manual labour are miles apart but it’s the same principle. We should do the best we can to get him back to his best. If we send him off to another club, at least make sure he has some sort of playing career left and it’s not some shitty short term deal where he’s hung out to dry after a year or so. Some people might not agree with this but if we were talking about anyone else besides a footballer, I think there would be a bit more sympathy.
    P'n'G, it's taken me a while to come back to you on this but I don't really agree with you here. In terms of the punishments to the offending player and your point about the FA, I totally agree with you there. Where our opinions differ is on the rehabilition period for Diaby and what we should be doing as a club. Look I accept that Diaby hasn't been the same since the incident and accept that it wasn't his fault he got crocked. As a club we have a duty to look after our players, but I think babysitting them to the extent we have with Diaby is a stretch too far. Arsene actually mentions Diaby as a player who is seen as integral to our plans, he won't buy in Midfield because we have Diaby (a player who is regularly injured) coming back from injury. I personally think he's made this mistake far too many times over the past few seasons with players, we all know who the players are.

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    i could be wrong but i can't recall wenger saying he wouldn't specifically buy in central midfield because we have diaby. everyone was saying get rid of rvp because of his injury record and now look, so i would put more faith in the knowledge wenger has about diaby's possible future than you seem to be at present.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz View Post
    i could be wrong but i can't recall wenger saying he wouldn't specifically buy in central midfield because we have diaby. everyone was saying get rid of rvp because of his injury record and now look, so i would put more faith in the knowledge wenger has about diaby's possible future than you seem to be at present.
    I'll have to try and dig up the quote but Wenger very recently said he had Wilshire & Diaby coming back so he won't buy in Central Midfield.

    Everyone wasn't saying we should get rid of RVP and to be brutally honest we had sufficient quality upfront to be able to give RVP the time he needed to get healthy. We don't have that luxury in Central Midfield at present. Moreover RVP has repeatedly shown large flashes of brilliance in his career here, Diaby on the other hand has had a few decent moments, let's not go overboard here.

    For sure Wenger knows more about his players and their abilities than me, that's why he's our manager and paid the highest salary in PL but he's absolutely not walking on water here, he has got a fair few calls on developing players wrong over the past few years.

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    Diaby is quality.

    If he can get back to full fitness....and to be fair, only those in the know, will know if he can.....he should be given that time.
    It's better to burn out, than to fade away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    For sure Wenger knows more about his players and their abilities than me, that's why he's our manager and paid the highest salary in PL but he's absolutely not walking on water here, he has got a fair few calls on developing players wrong over the past few years.
    he has but those blighted by injuries he seems to have a good understanding on when to stick with the player or let them go.

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    Would prefer to see Diaby's transfer out explained, what's the point of this player?
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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    Are we as a club really in a position to plead poverty with paying our stars premium wages when we have several squad members Diaby being the main example who are on 50K plus a week but spend more time on the treatment table than on the playing field?

    We should be more ruthless with players like Diaby and show them the door.
    Wenger hasn't been ruthless for years. Selling Merson, dropping Wright - that was ruthless.

    To be fair this season he did ship out Denilson, Bendy and Eboue. But these days it takes him 5 years to work out that a player is shite.

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