A fallacy quashed?

[Coney]

Dein was the reason Cole didn't get the 5k from my understading. Cole said it was Dein blocking it because of a personal beef. Or am I wrong?

I can't state this as a quaranteed fact, but I am pretty sure that at the time, Cole had understood that he had an agreement with Dein on this issue, so I would not expect him to be the blocker. However, as with a lot of this stuff, we don't have clear establishable facts to prove things either way. I speculate based on what I interpret the statements to mean when they make an unguarded comment. Guarded comments have to be taken with a bigger pinch of salt because they are carefully picking their words.

Maybe everything is bollocks. Ah well. We can but wait to see what the squad looks like at the end of the transfer period. 2 more months of speculation and innuendo to go...

[Power n Glory]

I can't state this as a quaranteed fact, but I am pretty sure that at the time, Cole had understood that he had an agreement with Dein on this issue, so I would not expect him to be the blocker. However, as with a lot of this stuff, we don't have clear establishable facts to prove things either way. I speculate based on what I interpret the statements to mean when they make an unguarded comment. Guarded comments have to be taken with a bigger pinch of salt because they are carefully picking their words.

Maybe everything is bollocks. Ah well. We can but wait to see what the squad looks like at the end of the transfer period. 2 more months of speculation and innuendo to go...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...wsstory.sport5

Check this out. Cole blamed Dein the most and was also disappointed with Wenger for siding with the Board. But this was after getting caught with his pants down.

[Coney]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...wsstory.sport5

Check this out. Cole blamed Dein the most and was also disappointed with Wenger for siding with the Board. But this was after getting caught with his pants down.

The thing is, once Cole was, as you say, caught with his pants down with Moronio, everything he said after that was going to be whatever it took to justify his moving to the chavs and he kicked everyone at the Arsenal that he could, to the extent that any possible credibility after that went down the toilet. Offhand remarks while he was still there carry a little more weight, but the sour grapes afterwards (that made him so popular with Arsenal fans) are something I would tend to discount.

Once the 5k had been stopped, Wenger would take the official line - he does that because he is a professional manager and will avoid criticism of the board. That is why I think his mention of "ridiculous for only 5K" was a slip and thus carries more weight as an unintentional revealing of his position. As a young dick, C***ley would not have understood the concept of behaving like a professional and thus not understood Wenger's position.

[Power n Glory]

There is no reason for him to single out Dein if that were true. He would have said he was disappointed by Dein.

[AKBapologist]

Huh? I read that as "there was no one to provide the authority for AW to do what he wanted in the transfer window" - not AW's fault if he wasn't supported properly in transfers, or if the board didn't have the back bone to. When your leadership structure is relying on middle management to run the club, something broken.

[Toronto Gooner]

Huh? I read that as "there was no one to provide the authority for AW to do what he wanted in the transfer window" - not AW's fault if he wasn't supported properly in transfers, or if the board didn't have the back bone to. When your leadership structure is relying on middle management to run the club, something broken.

This would seem run counter to quotes that started this thread.

[AKBapologist]

When you appear to hold the burden of the clubs finical stability in your hands, I'm not surprised. AW can't do 30mill flops like City and United can and if he did, I he'd get roasted on here. What seems to be missing is the kind of nudge and experience bodies in the background that had the authority to advice AW. ATM, it seems AW's been left to run the club due to a weak board, probably neglecting pitch side stuff in the process.