Henry

[LDG]

Pretty much agree, watching Henry score yesterday also reminded me of what is what like to have class players instead of the dogshite we have today......Wenger's been trying to convince us that his team are world class and going to be something special for years...Henry yesterday convinced me that the class of player in the days we were successful and those we have now are world's apart.

Henry is one of a kind, and they don't come along very often. The only players in the PL currently performing to that standard, I can think of that come close (and haven't yet proven it over a sustained period) are Augero and Silva.

That said, it shows how badly we need another finisher. We create more than enough chances, but don't put the ball in the back of the net enough. It's partly why I think Henry is a decent signing, because he'll find the space, and convert the chance.

We have no problem in getting into dangerous areas, we just haven't had anyone other than RVP who can consistently convert. If Arshavin could find some confidence, he'd be knocking a few in too....

[Marc Overmars]

Speaking to some rival fans today at work and even they couldn't help but raise a smile.

Henry.

What a man.

[Özim]

Henry is one of a kind, and they don't come along very often. The only players in the PL currently performing to that standard, I can think of that come close (and haven't yet proven it over a sustained period) are Augero and Silva.

That said, it shows how badly we need another finisher. We create more than enough chances, but don't put the ball in the back of the net enough. It's partly why I think Henry is a decent signing, because he'll find the space, and convert the chance.

We have no problem in getting into dangerous areas, we just haven't had anyone other than RVP who can consistently convert. If Arshavin could find some confidence, he'd be knocking a few in too....

It's not just Henry though, Pires, Overmars, Vieira, Ljungberg, Adams, Seaman, Cole, Lauren and the list goes on. We have so few class players days it's untrue and it shows, you can put it down to lack of composure etc etc but IMO it's just a lack of class and ability in a lot of cases.

We're never really challenging because we don't have the class of players.

[Niall_Quinn]

It's not just Henry though, Pires, Overmars, Vieira, Ljungberg, Adams, Seaman, Cole, Lauren and the list goes on. We have so few class players days it's untrue and it shows, you can put it down to lack of composure etc etc but IMO it's just a lack of class and ability in a lot of cases.

We're never really challenging because we don't have the class of players.

Can you name any club in this country that has players like Henry, Bergkamp, Pires, etc, playing for them? Shrek? He's the biggest name right now, but he's nowhere and a nobody by comparison. Silva? Half a good season, we'll see what happens. The quality of the players and the game in general is so much lower. The last five or six games I have watched, ours included, reminded me of a Sunday league hackathon, kick and rush, give the ball away, charge around at 110mph. Plenty of energy, precious little skill. A very poor Utd won the title last year and it looks like the most average team ever to win it will be City this year. And they all get paid ten times more. Bit of a joke really.

[LDG]

Can you name any club in this country that has players like Henry, Bergkamp, Pires, etc, playing for them? Shrek? He's the biggest name right now, but he's nowhere and a nobody by comparison. Silva? Half a good season, we'll see what happens. The quality of the players and the game in general is so much lower. The last five or six games I have watched, ours included, reminded me of a Sunday league hackathon, kick and rush, give the ball away, charge around at 110mph. Plenty of energy, precious little skill. A very poor Utd won the title last year and it looks like the most average team ever to win it will be City this year. And they all get paid ten times more. Bit of a joke really.

Completely agree.

I wish people would stop pining for a team which was possibly one of the greatest teams in the top flight in England. EVER.

The quality was of such a high standard, it's near on impossible to replicate it.

We should be adding a bit more quality, and Wenger should be more ruthless with the underperforming players, but it's easier said than done.

Nobody is saying that we haven't made mistakes, and by our own standards, we should be doing better than we have, but harking back to a one in a million team is just stupid.

[Niall_Quinn]

Completely agree.

I wish people would stop pining for a team which was possibly one of the greatest teams in the top flight in England. EVER.

The quality was of such a high standard, it's near on impossible to replicate it.

We should be adding a bit more quality, and Wenger should be more ruthless with the underperforming players, but it's easier said than done.

Nobody is saying that we haven't made mistakes, and by our own standards, we should be doing better than we have, but harking back to a one in a million team is just stupid.

Agreed, and not just because you fell for that Onion video.

[LDG]

Agreed, and not just because you fell for that Onion video.

You. Outside. I'm gonna give you a damn good coning.

[Marc Overmars]

Pires is training with us. Sign him up tbh.

Get Freddie and Gilberto back while we're at it.

Invincible reunion.

[Özim]

Completely agree.

I wish people would stop pining for a team which was possibly one of the greatest teams in the top flight in England. EVER.

The quality was of such a high standard, it's near on impossible to replicate it.

We should be adding a bit more quality, and Wenger should be more ruthless with the underperforming players, but it's easier said than done.

Nobody is saying that we haven't made mistakes, and by our own standards, we should be doing better than we have, but harking back to a one in a million team is just stupid.

Thing is there's teams out there who play much better, imaginative football City and Spurs being two.....these days we're really nothing special, Henry just made me realise how ordinary we are we really don't have too many stand out players.

Wenger's eye for talent seems to have gone, I'd say when he first arrived he signed the right players and with the hunger to succeed and quality they did all of the rest for him, a bit like Henry the other night....he's a good manager for sure, but it's become very clear in the last 6 years he's not as good as many believed, he's got far too many flaws to be.

Just shows quality is worth paying a bit more for, buying these cheaper players generally doesn't work too well.

[LDG]

Hmmm. Not going into a debate about Wenger, as none of us know the full story, I'm sure. There are certainly things he has gotten wrong, but he has also gotten things right over the last 6 years.

It's a different world mate. In so many ways to when Wenger arrived.

You say City, but I don't think they're that good. And the players that are top draw cost one hell of a lot of money. 250mil they've spent in two years....and nothing is assured at this point in the season. They're out of the CL and the FA Cup.....and i really don't see anything, anywhere near what we were in our prime. Hell, I'd back Utd to win it again on pure desire alone.

Like I said, there are things wrong, and Wenger is definitely to blame for some of them. But we can't look back and demand the same, because the landscape has changed dramatically. We should be making the best of what we do have, and hopefully we can (if the desire that Utd have is anything to go by, and the shit they have in their squad, we can surely do the same)....I won't hold my breath, because I think there are too many other forces at work both internally and externally....but I think you're looking for something which is unatainable in this day and age.