A fallacy quashed?

[AKBapologist]

PnG, the main reason were interested in him is because he has PL experience, yet strangely your critising him for not only doing exactly what he's being doing for the last few years (and let's not predent samba was or even is world class), but now that he's looking to get players with epl experience it's something to bash him over the head with.

Mental.

[Power n Glory]

PnG, the main reason were interested in him is because he has PL experience, yet strangely your critising him for not only doing exactly what he's being doing for the last few years (and let's not predent samba was or even is world class), but now that he's looking to get players with epl experience it's something to bash him over the head with.

Mental.

The point is....drumroll.....he can't coach defence! What's the matter with you? How comes other coaches can grab a guy from other leagues and turn them into decent defenders? Vidic is another example.

This is why it's not just about finances.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

The point is....drumroll.....he can't coach defence! What's the matter with you? How comes other coaches can grab a guy from other leagues and turn them into decent defenders? Vidic is another example.

This is why it's not just about finances.

The point is....drumroll.....he can't coach defence!

well lets get someone decent in that can! and that does not necessarily mean get rid of Wenger but get better defensive coach to share the load because I am sure that Wenger oversees things and there are coaches that should be specialising in things and if there isn't you can bet that Stan, coming from his American sports background will be thinking why the hell not.

Steve Bould is praised for his work and has his name mentioned more often than not and he was almost the closet that Arsenal have had to a nutter at the back! (I say closet because I swear the likes of Keown or even earlier Willie Young were fed raw meat!!!)

[Power n Glory]

Keown was our defensive coach for a period but was moved on for some reason. We just had Campbell in our team and I'm not sure why he wasn't offered a player/coach role.

You've got another thread on here about Adams and said he doesn't want to return to Arsenal as a No.2.

“I would love to go back to Arsenal one day, but not as No 2 or a defensive coach.
“Arsene Wenger would not let me do enough. He does all the coaching, so I don’t think I could work under him. It’s a tougher job at Gabala than at Arsenal.” Adams told the Daily Express.

http://news.arseblog.com/index.php/2...anage-arsenal/

I get the impression likes to do things his way. What are you going to tell a man like that? This is why I'm not buying into this 'poor old Wenger' rubbish.

[AKBapologist]

Ivan Gladis from the AST interview. "...Removing the manager from the financial aspects to me doesn't make a lot of sense because you have to discuss the worth of a player, and as I've said, everything is about efficiency when you have a limited spend, so you need to prioritise where your going to spend your money and how much an individual player is worth, so it's very difficult for me to imagine having a manager that says 'now that's the player I want now go get him' and you make up what you think the price is - there has to be a dialogue with the manger."


Chelsea and City, has made it harder to attract players of a higher quality for the rates and prices our resources would have otherwise allowed. With better transfers, and a weaker breath of competition, it's a no brainer we would have won more titles.



Edit: the more and more you hear the clear it becomes just how constrained transfers have been so far, feels like we've been running to the margins with what our resources would allow. Whelp.

[selassie]

Ivan Gladis from the AST interview. "...Removing the manager from the financial aspects to me doesn't make a lot of sense because you have to discuss the worth of a player, and as I've said, everything is about efficiency when you have a limited spend, so you need to prioritise where your going to spend your money and how much an individual player is worth, so it's very difficult for me to imagine having a manager that says 'now that's the player I want now go get him' and you make up what you think the price is - there has to be a dialogue with the manger."


Chelsea and City, has made it harder to attract players of a higher quality for the rates and prices our resources would have otherwise allowed. With better transfers, and a weaker breath of competition, it's a no brainer we would have won more titles.



Edit: the more and more you hear the clear it becomes just how constrained transfers have been so far, feels like we've been running to the margins with what our resources would allow. Whelp.

AKB, stop making it out to be so simplistic. It's not like the competition is completely unfair and is solely related to finances.

There is two sides to the argument here, sure with a stronger financial backing we may well have fared a little better over the past 5 years, but equally, if you handicap yourself tactically it really doesn't help either.

I really don't understand the context of this limited spend either? Limited in comparison to what? Limited in comparison to the revenue we bring in? Limited in comparison to some of our major rivals? Half of the problem we have is that the Board & Arsene come out with these cryptic sound bites about finances that don't really mean anything and can be interpreted anyway you want them to be.

[Power n Glory]

Nobody is saying we have unlimited funds either.

Confirms what I've been saying from the start and on other threads. People like to blame the board when talking about our transfer policy and make out as if Wenger has no authority. This quote shows that he is involved and it goes as far as making an estimate on a players value. Go back to the original thread post about Dein and Wenger and you might start to see the bigger picture.