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    Additionally, I don't want us scraping into the top 4 this season, and I sure as fuck don't want us playing in the fucking Europa League.

    We are crashing and burning this season, better for us long term if we do it spectacularly.
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    Chamakh wasn't even in the country today and we still couldn't win. We need a striker for sure, but not if it's another piece of shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GB. View Post
    Additionally, I don't want us scraping into the top 4 this season, and I sure as fuck don't want us playing in the fucking Europa League.

    We are crashing and burning this season, better for us long term if we do it spectacularly.
    We need to go into the bascis next season missing out on the CL won't be a big loss tbh as long as we get a manger who knows what he is doing. We need pep to come it asap

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner View Post
    We need to go into the bascis next season missing out on the CL won't be a big loss tbh as long as we get a manger who knows what he is doing. We need pep to come it asap
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Why would he come here?
    The ultimate WUM to Cesc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost... View Post
    The ultimate WUM to Cesc.
    And Wenger to Barca, plus our board goes as part f the deal? Genius. And likely to happen.
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    I don't know what to make of Arsene right now. He cares a lot for the club - more than any other manager would for his club IMO. He's obviously an intelligent guy. But he makes a lot of stupid decisions. Some of them might be forced - I still believe that, having built a squad with the quality of strikeforce of Wiltord, Henry, Bergkamp and Kanu, he knows the value of a good striker. He knows that Chamakh, Walcott, Gervinho are not near the same calibre. But even if his hands are tied a bit, any self-respecting man would not agree to be the fall guy just so he can have £5m a year shoved in his mouth. So those are the two ideas I'm trading off. I can't decided where the truth is along those two points. But I'm not liking what we're seeing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syn View Post
    I don't know what to make of Arsene right now. He cares a lot for the club - more than any other manager would for his club IMO. He's obviously an intelligent guy. But he makes a lot of stupid decisions. Some of them might be forced - I still believe that, having built a squad with the quality of strikeforce of Wiltord, Henry, Bergkamp and Kanu, he knows the value of a good striker. He knows that Chamakh, Walcott, Gervinho are not near the same calibre. But even if his hands are tied a bit, any self-respecting man would not agree to be the fall guy just so he can have £5m a year shoved in his mouth. So those are the two ideas I'm trading off. I can't decided where the truth is along those two points. But I'm not liking what we're seeing.
    I hear what you say about not knowing what to make of Wenger. My thoughts are along the following lines..

    You decide you need a bigger better modern stadium. You don't want to bust the club in the process. You want to build a team from young talent developed yourself, building a conquering side for a decade and more. All very fine and laudable.

    However, the rest of the world moves on and things don't quite work out after a few years of trying. Meanwhile, the financial position improves.

    Having seen (he and Gazidis implied) last season that things were not working out as planned, he said there would be a new approach. Fine. Nasri/Cesc issues made it difficult to sort out the midfield issues till last minute, though Arteta was a solid buy and something we have needed - experience. The defenders bought seemed to fit the bill.

    However, Arshavin and Walcott have failed to produce goals, something you expect of attacking midfielders. They have had years to adapt and build up but this season, they have manifestly failed to deliver and it is time to call time on them. If Wenger spends NOW - this window - on buying players who can finish, I'll give him more time as it will show he has reacted to the situation. But if he persists with these players who have had more than enough chances to show they can deliver, then I think it will mean he is clinging onto the old dream and not accepting he has to move on. And if that is the case, it is time for the Arsenal to spend, not just on players, but on a new manager. He has a couple of weeks left to convince me that he has adapted.

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    i have supported Wenger through thick and thin....even got into a punch up with a Manc back in 2007 over my opinion that he was the best coach in the world.

    However what is now clear as day is this guy is not the same Wenger who created and moulded the great Arsenal sides upto the Invincibles.

    We now have a very stubborn, overtly opinionated, ego driven manager who believes eveything he says is right and it should be his way or no way.
    The guys refuses to change and adapt to football and what really makes me think this is even Mourhinio came out and said that no matter how well you tactically prepare, genius football players can change a game.

    I believe Wenger used to believe this, hence the reason we saw him bring in Henry, Cesc, Pires, Vieria, Overmars, Petit, RVP etc etc

    However looking at our players now, how can Wenger look at Theo, Asharvin, Chamack, Squilachi, Rosicky, Arteta, Ramsey, Diaby, Gervhinio etc and say that these guys are really top top class...world class and win take us to the top.

    Its about more than money...its his stubborn nature, look at Oxo, Ryo, Park etc, he refuses to give them a chance and yet will keep on playing the predicatble and awful Asharvin, Chamack etc.

    Wenger as a coach, he is still one of the best, but as a manager of a top football club, unless he admits that he needs to adapt...i am sorry he is past it.

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    Cant see any top bosses coming to us tbh, with the lack of investment and the constant stripping of all assets from the team while replacing them with cheap alternatives is hardly a juicy advertisement for the club is it?

    Wenger has done well while losing most of his prodigies but with less pig-headeness could have done a lot better, there are a few things wrong here and there (least of all the tactics) but if Wenger wont change these he should be moved on and a more adaptable manager given a go.

    Tis funny but was talking to a Chelsea fan yesterday who said that the word at the bridge is that they will go for Brendan Rogers if AVB doesn't Pep up, with him being known to most of the squad already, having the GHELS on side due to the Morinho history and showing real promise at Swansea they see him as a long term target.

    I do wonder who our board would go for.

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