If we don't finish 4th, do you want Wenger to leave at the end of the season?

[Niall_Quinn]

It's PR talk.

Let's leave this Board level talk alone and just talk about what's happening on the pitch. When we're losing to teams like Swansea and a coach with little Prem experience, it's best to focus on the football and where it's all going wrong. This result isn't shocking.

But you and others, myself included, already agree it's the lack of quality on the pitch and depth in the squad that's the key issue. So if we ignore the board we might as well just say we are doing quite well considering what we have to work with.

[Tipsychubbs]

There will be plenty of excuses rolled out for him if/when we miss out on 4th.

He's going nowhere.

The board and manager stance will change from "We are playing in the CL, many teams would be lucky to be in our position" to "we are playing in Europe, many teams would be lucky to be in our position". Complacency and a lack of ambition, securing a place in European competition, has become an excuse for not winning trophies. We'll rest players in the CC and F.A. cup, our priority will have changed from securing the "4th Place Cup", to holding onto the "5th Place Cup".

[selassie]

The sad thing about today is that I knew we would lose, I even said to a fellow Gooner mate of mine we'll drop points.

I basically gave up with Arsene a long time ago, it wasn't even the final straw for me in the Summer, the damage had already been done way before that. We see these recurring patterns every single season, it's not even worth debating anymore.

I wanted him gone 2 seasons ago...nothing will change though. Come this summer he'll give us the annual "we'll sign 3 world class players", then we'll lose RVP & possibly one other high profile player, have we got any left?!!! after season ticket renewal time. Arsene will then sit on his hands and buy nobody and tell the world his team is ready and will come back stronger.

Sound familiar?

[Power n Glory]

But you and others, myself included, already agree it's the lack of quality on the pitch and depth in the squad that's the key issue. So if we ignore the board we might as well just say we are doing quite well considering what we have to work with.

Lack of quaality and depth stops us from being title contenders and challenging for the league. In that sense, yes. But can you use that excuse when we have just lost to Swansea? They have less depth and resources than us. Less experience at this level as well. You can't look at the Board for this sort of situation. It's down to tactics, preparation and management of the team.

On paper, our first team and bench are much better and more experienced. The argument about strength and depth doesn't wash here. It's no excuse. Wenger should be able to out fox a newly promoted team. That's the sort of game our Carling Cup kids team used to win. This isn't just a glitch in the matrix or maybe it is because it's fucking deja vu with this team every season. We struggled to be Leeds last week and only just lost to Fulham. Strength and depth has nothing to do with it.

[Xhaka Can’t]

It's PR talk.

Let's leave this Board level talk alone and just talk about what's happening on the pitch. When we're losing to teams like Swansea and a coach with little Prem experience, it's best to focus on the football and where it's all going wrong. This result isn't shocking.

So it is all PR talk when they give him new contracts and sleep in the bed of money he has generated for them, but it isn't PR talk when they talk about the 'war chest' of funds available to spend?

[Flavs]

Cant see any top bosses coming to us tbh, with the lack of investment and the constant stripping of all assets from the team while replacing them with cheap alternatives is hardly a juicy advertisement for the club is it?

Wenger has done well while losing most of his prodigies but with less pig-headeness could have done a lot better, there are a few things wrong here and there (least of all the tactics) but if Wenger wont change these he should be moved on and a more adaptable manager given a go.

Tis funny but was talking to a Chelsea fan yesterday who said that the word at the bridge is that they will go for Brendan Rogers if AVB doesn't Pep up, with him being known to most of the squad already, having the GHELS on side due to the Morinho history and showing real promise at Swansea they see him as a long term target.

I do wonder who our board would go for.

[selassie]

I do wonder who our board would go for.

They will leave that decision down to Arsene

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Dragan Stojkovic probably. If he is Wenger Jnr, circa 1997-2005 I don't think anybody will argue.

[Flavs]

I would like to see them give it to a young up and comer from the prem really, they wont obviously but it would be nice to see them give a chance to someone who is doing good things with a different team.

[Power n Glory]

So it is all PR talk when they give him new contracts and sleep in the bed of money he has generated for them, but it isn't PR talk when they talk about the 'war chest' of funds available to spend?

Quite frankly, how much we have to spend is irrelevant in this case and I don’t want to get caught up in this Board talk. I’ll dismiss it all as PR talk. In fact, I can’t really recall a situation where a Board has openly criticised a manager before giving him the sack. But again, it’s irrelevant. Wenger had money to spend in this transfer window.