If we don't finish 4th, do you want Wenger to leave at the end of the season?

[Syn]

We're not a talented team. We struggle to get passing movements going like Swansea did yesterday. We don't pass quickly, the first-touch is average, no difference in pure footballing talent between ourselves and teams around 6th-10th. But if we finish around 5th then it's because we're better in defence and more resilient than teams 6th-10th. I know we weren't exactly solid yesterday but we usually are ok in defence..we just can't score enough goals and attack well. Funny how things change. Arstoke FC imo.

[Flavs]

more resilient than teams 6th-10th.

That's the key failing of our squad and the management, resilience or the lack of it, no mental resilience, no physical resilience and no testicular resilience

[Syn]

That's the key failing of our squad and the management, resilience or the lack of it, no mental resilience, no physical resilience and no testicular resilience

Nah, we've been ok at that this season. We just don't have the quality to win lots of games. If you're suggesting we have no resilience AND no talent then we really would be 15th by now.

[Flavs]

Nah, we've been ok at that this season. We just don't have the quality to win lots of games. If you're suggesting we have no resilience AND no talent then we really would be 15th by now.

I didn't say we have no talent, i said it was ridiculous to think that talent is enough to get a top 4 finish and its ridiculous to think that other teams don't have players as talented as ours. We aren't resilient IMO we are a little bunch of pussy whipped beharches who are about as good at holding onto a lead as a amputee dog walker

[Kano]

We aren't resilient IMO we are a little bunch of pussy whipped beharches who are about as good at holding onto a lead as a amputee dog walker

well since that recognised 'change' in our set up after blackburn/utd these are the first leads we've lost.

[Syn]

I didn't say we have no talent, i said it was ridiculous to think that talent is enough to get a top 4 finish and its ridiculous to think that other teams don't have players as talented as ours. We aren't resilient IMO we are a little bunch of pussy whipped beharches who are about as good at holding onto a lead as a amputee dog walker

I see what you're saying. Supposing we finish 5th...on average, we must be 5th best in the league at doing stuff. So if talent-wise we're 6th, we must be better than 6th at something else.

IMO when we had that run with Jenkinson, Santos and Vermaelen, Koscielny/Mertesacker and Szczesny, our back 5 was one of the strongest around and scrapping a load of unconvincing wins was the reason behind a good comeback after the horrible start. The last couple of games are very worrying because we've gone back to the same sluggish performances as the start of the season (and last season). Letting Swansea score straight after equalising is the sort of thing I hoped we had improved on because when we were battling to wins at Stamford Bridge and in Marseille, we were showing a lot more fight than we'd been used to. Ups and downs tbh. It's hard to see another good burst of games unless Wilshere and Sagna quickly return and improve us a lot. No pressure.

[Power n Glory]

We've been dropping points against newly promoted teams for years. This isn't anything new. This isn't the best team we've had but I can't see why the coach of Swansea can pick up league one players and get them working as an efficient unit and why someone like Tony Pubis can make Stoke so hard to beat when he's working with players that are very limited. These guys can't attract the sort of players we attract. It's a complete reveres of what's been said on here about City and Chelsea's spending power. It's backwards. We have an advantage over these clubs in regards to spending power and there is nothing stopping Wenger from picking up a Robert Huth, Shawcross, Delap, Dyer or Vorm in the transfer market. The excuses are getting silly on here.