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    Quote Originally Posted by GB. View Post
    Say what you like about Theo, but when he sees an obstacle in front of him, he'll run straight into it.


    Fair opint.

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    I would love to see stats about Walcott's pass completion rate and also the number of times he loses the ball when he has it. His finishing stats wont be a pretty read so I am not going to bother looking at that but a winger should have a good pass completion rate and I bet his is probably less than 50%

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    He passes back successfully to Sagna and Djourou a lot.

    Therefore, his stats will be decent overall.

    Stats .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syn View Post


    Fair opint.
    opint?

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    We lost that game in the middle of the park and it was the same against Fulham. We didn't have control of the game. It's been a problem area from day one and early on in the season, people were saying we were more direct, focussing on wing play, playing a more counter attacking game as if it was intentional. It wasn't and Wenger hasn't changed his philosophy on possession play. We just can't keep possession because the midfield trio aren't good enough to bounce the ball around. Song is the best out of all of them when it comes to passing and keeping possession.

    We had no cohesion from the centre yesterday and there were massive gaps in the middle of the park. Yossi and Ramsey were all over the place and just couldn't keep a tight unit. Neither are that good at winning the ball back either and they're undisciplined with their movement so Swansea were pretty comfortable on the ball. Wenger didn't get the balance right there and Rosicky should have played ahead of Ramsey. That kid has had too many stinkers and can't conduct a midfield.

    The problem is, Wenger wants to play that way and can't adapt. Why not get the team to sit deeper and have Walcott playing off the shoulder of his man, same goes for Arshavin and see if we can RVP to just drop off his man and look to thread either man through on counter attacks or see if Ramsey is any good at picking out long range passes into space instead of the intricate stuff? We only know how to play one way and even with key players injured Wenger is still trying to the same game. Arshavin and Walcott can't beat there man on the flanks. Both are pretty shit at dribbling. But in a straight line race to goal, they'll beat most defenders and not bad at finishing when confident. It's how we got our second goal.

    Arshavin and RVP are the most creative players on the filed but one is stuck out wide and the other is high up the field playing as a striker. Why is Arshavin playing on the flanks when Miquel is playing as left back? That's just dangerous. Wenger needs to figure out where the creativity is going to come from and look at the strengths and weakness of his players. Arshavin and Theo can't dribble past players or create from wide positions so why play them there? Ramsey and Yossi aren't great passers either so where is the creativity going to come from? Neither are good at tackling and winning the ball back and we're playing against a team that are very comfortable on the ball and keep possession well. This is why Wenger baffles me. He just doesn't make tactical decisions like other managers. He doesn't take the opposition into consideration or the players he has at his disposal into consideration either. It's like he has tunnel vision. The most rigid manager out of all of the top guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    We lost that game in the middle of the park and it was the same against Fulham. We didn't have control of the game. It's been a problem area from day one and early on in the season, people were saying we were more direct, focussing on wing play, playing a more counter attacking game as if it was intentional. It wasn't and Wenger hasn't changed his philosophy on possession play. We just can't keep possession because the midfield trio aren't good enough to bounce the ball around. Song is the best out of all of them when it comes to passing and keeping possession.

    We had no cohesion from the centre yesterday and there were massive gaps in the middle of the park. Yossi and Ramsey were all over the place and just couldn't keep a tight unit. Neither are that good at winning the ball back either and they're undisciplined with their movement so Swansea were pretty comfortable on the ball. Wenger didn't get the balance right there and Rosicky should have played ahead of Ramsey. That kid has had too many stinkers and can't conduct a midfield.

    The problem is, Wenger wants to play that way and can't adapt. Why not get the team to sit deeper and have Walcott playing off the shoulder of his man, same goes for Arshavin and see if we can RVP to just drop off his man and look to thread either man through on counter attacks or see if Ramsey is any good at picking out long range passes into space instead of the intricate stuff? We only know how to play one way and even with key players injured Wenger is still trying to the same game. Arshavin and Walcott can't beat there man on the flanks. Both are pretty shit at dribbling. But in a straight line race to goal, they'll beat most defenders and not bad at finishing when confident. It's how we got our second goal.

    Arshavin and RVP are the most creative players on the filed but one is stuck out wide and the other is high up the field playing as a striker. Why is Arshavin playing on the flanks when Miquel is playing as left back? That's just dangerous. Wenger needs to figure out where the creativity is going to come from and look at the strengths and weakness of his players. Arshavin and Theo can't dribble past players or create from wide positions so why play them there? Ramsey and Yossi aren't great passers either so where is the creativity going to come from? Neither are good at tackling and winning the ball back and we're playing against a team that are very comfortable on the ball and keep possession well. This is why Wenger baffles me. He just doesn't make tactical decisions like other managers. He doesn't take the opposition into consideration or the players he has at his disposal into consideration either. It's like he has tunnel vision. The most rigid manager out of all of the top guys.
    Superb fucking post mate...top quality....post of 2012 so far....spot on.

    What concerns me is Wengers inability to try and adapt...Wenger still believes your 11 can play our 11 and if we are better we will win.....yet we no longer have the Bergkamps, Henrys (Prime), Pires etc of this world to make it work

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm View Post
    opint?
    Guinness.
    Last edited by Coney; 17-01-2012 at 06:30 PM.

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    I would like to see us play the 4-4-1-1 that Everton do. Play RvP up top as usual but sit Arshavin just behind him, play Gervinho and Walcott a lot deeper but looking to rush forward when we win the ball. It would offer more support for RvP while playing Arshavin in his most effective role, give more protection to the back four, especially the full backs or lack thereof. The only problem is you lose a man in the midfield but playing the wider players further infield should help with that. That would mean a first team of...


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    ---Sagna-------Kos-------Verm--------Santos

    -Walcott--------Song--------Ramteta-----megamind--

    -------------------Arshavin--------------

    ----------------------RvP---------------

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnerrrrr View Post
    This.
    he is not ready to run a midfield, he is slow, ditters on the ball,gives it away etc etc
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    He's ok just had a bad game tbh, but i agree he is not ready to run the midfield and put him with Arteta its makes the midfield even worse. We really need a few new midfilders because Jack alone won't do the trick.

    Get in the lad from rennes and hazard or Gotze or the lad from Basle.

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    I would like to see us practise and master our passing, crossing and shooting. I'd like our players to decide on one style of football, either simple and efficient or overly complicated and based on percentages (I'd prefer the former myself). I'd like to see our players maybe leaving Twitter aside for a while and instead studying the game afterwards to see where they went wrong and how they can improve. Then I'd like them to remember what they have seen and work hard to ensure they don't make the same mistakes again. I'd like them to stop appearing in the newspapers talking about how Henry will revitalise the team, or how we're on the verge of becoming a super team and instead watch them do all their talking on the pitch. I'd like them to earn the huge amount the are handed each week by giving these things back to the fans who have to dig deep in a time of recession to pay to watch the team. I'd like to hear the fans stop telling Wenger how to run the team and instead try to figure out why he's running the team the way he is and then get behind him. If he fucks it up then I'm happy to hear the fans voice their concerns in the summer when these things can be more properly addressed. I'd like to see the fans listen to a legend like Thierry Henry and take his advice. I believe if the players did all this and the fans did all this the club would be in a much better place and surely that's what both the players and the fans want.
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