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    Seems like we have our new manager

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ach View Post
    Seems like we have our new manager

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    Or you could look at it the other way and say if we sign quality to achieve our goal of top 4 and to win something, I mean surely the board & the manager want to win things don't they?

    It makes me feel very uncomfortable reading these quotes and the ones from PHW about not qualifying for top 4 not being a disaster. It's defeatist...
    IMO the board have written this season off, well in the league anyway, their aim is 4th and even though they say its not a big deal it really is. maybe not for the money but to keep the big players and even add more.

    like Ach said we don't sign players in this window then were not getting top 4 simple as. Chavs are spending and like cripps said we are not catching spuds and pool might do something too.

    this lot will collapse soon if we don't invest.l

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    Who has conned who?

    Has Wenger been talking bollox about doing things the right way, not spending big, City cant be beaten with unlimited resorce.

    Or have the board been giving it the, stadium still needs to be paid for, wages getting bigger.

    Has anyone got a bullshit filter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fats View Post
    Who has conned who?

    Has Wenger been talking bollox about doing things the right way, not spending big, City cant be beaten with unlimited resorce.

    Or have the board been giving it the, stadium still needs to be paid for, wages getting bigger.

    Has anyone got a bullshit filter.
    Well its the boards job to maximise shareholder wealth. Its Wengers job to manage the TEAM. If the board were not allowing Wenger to fufill this requirement and are not recuiting new players, Wenger has every right and in fact an obligation to ask for more money. If he has and the board refused he should walk or issue an ultimatium. He has earnt the right to do so, he would get the fans on his side and thats it. The fact he doesnt, and preaches about not spending big etc etc is the biggest evidence that he either refuses to spend money. If the board offered money and and wenger doesnt spend which is the most likely situation, then its wengers fault. If they are skint which is not the case, considering out profit weve made from selling our star players even with a brand new spanking stadium we should still be spending more.

    Im sure that the money we have will be spent after we fail to achieve forth. Its just dissapointing at the percieved lack of ambition coming from Arsenal. Rather than preventing the disaster we are just watching the decline. Choosing to paper over the cracks. Once we finish out of the top four players our reputation will plummit even further, and we've made it ridiculously hard for ourselves. The board are money grabbing cunts, but any shareholder will primarily look to maximise their wealth. How can you blame them? But why has Wenger not done anything?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SayNoMore View Post
    Well its the boards job to maximise shareholder wealth. Its Wengers job to manage the TEAM. If the board were not allowing Wenger to fufill this requirement and are not recuiting new players, Wenger has every right and in fact an obligation to ask for more money. If he has and the board refused he should walk or issue an ultimatium. He has earnt the right to do so, he would get the fans on his side and thats it. The fact he doesnt, and preaches about not spending big etc etc is the biggest evidence that he either refuses to spend money. If the board offered money and and wenger doesnt spend which is the most likely situation, then its wengers fault. If they are skint which is not the case, considering out profit weve made from selling our star players even with a brand new spanking stadium we should still be spending more.

    Im sure that the money we have will be spent after we fail to achieve forth. Its just dissapointing at the percieved lack of ambition coming from Arsenal. Rather than preventing the disaster we are just watching the decline. Choosing to paper over the cracks. Once we finish out of the top four players our reputation will plummit even further, and we've made it ridiculously hard for ourselves. The board are money grabbing cunts, but any shareholder will primarily look to maximise their wealth. How can you blame them? But why has Wenger not done anything?
    Thats the Million dolla question, Im guessing he is on both sides of the fence and does not know which side to join. He can't go against the people who pay his wages and let the club to been seen as fighting, not good for the image.

    But he does not want to upset the fans either, personally i don't think he give two fecks about how the fans feel about him, but wants them onside.

    The reason i was happy with the summer signings is because i thought he strenghen with better players in Jan. He seems to not be doing that which to me says he is waiting to see if he get in the cl before splashing the clash again.

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    Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger is ready to make an £18m offer for Newcastle United striker Demba Ba.
    Full story: caughtoffside.com


    Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger has been dealt a major blow ahead of Sunday's crunch clash with Manchester United, with Thierry Henry rated as 'doubtful'.
    Full story: Metro

    Former Arsenal midfielder Aleksandr Hleb admits he wasted his career after leaving the Emirates.
    Full story: talkSPORT
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...rs/default.stm

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    Demba Ba

    Henry wouldnt have played anyway

    Hleb

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    Ba Must Get™.

    Kleb .

    Whose bench is he assisting the assister of the water bottles from now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fats View Post
    Who has conned who?

    Has Wenger been talking bollox about doing things the right way, not spending big, City cant be beaten with unlimited resorce.

    Or have the board been giving it the, stadium still needs to be paid for, wages getting bigger.

    Has anyone got a bullshit filter.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fats View Post
    Who has conned who?

    Has Wenger been talking bollox about doing things the right way, not spending big
    In all honesty when has 'not spending' been the right thing

    Since the beginning of time it has been agreed that for a team to get better than an invesrment in new players is required unless you have the kind of youth academy that churns talent out left right and centre, and even then those youth players need to be sirrounded by experience.

    What does the board or Wenger (I blame both) not see in this simple equation. Is it because they want to hoard the money, dont they see that with every season of mediocrity our marketability diminishes! that our attractiveness/brand image goes down thus we lose and fail to attract players.

    Sure keep control of the purse strings, run a tight ship but dont let that fail to allow you to see the wood for the trees.
    We seem to be going in a vicious circle, what it will be next is a few stalwart GWs bitching in the summer about how we need to buy in because we didnt in January, the whole idea about waiting till now was because we thought we could get the likes of Cahill (not needed) on the cheap, the sales pitch now is that we need to wait till the summer for people to be out of contract.

    How much more do we have to take, I am in a minority perhaps when I say I think that we have improved, are more balanced and mentally tougher but in no way are we the finished article in all those departments. . .even though we have been blighted with injuries the loss of Jack for two thirds of the season we do need to invest. If a Poldoski or Ba becomes available, buy him. . .of course that same player may be cheaper come the summer or January but if we dont take a risk then we will never know what we could achieve. . .I mean if you dont ask the girl, she isnt going to dance with you. . .I dont have figures but I would say percentage wise theirvour a ton of clubs spending more than us compared to what they used to. . .and for some it is only to survive, we dont have to spend to survive, just to get better and become a force in the PL again.

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