Match Reaction v Man Utd

[Niall_Quinn]

The decision he made today can't be overlooked. He's made it worse by not holding his hands up. Admitting he's wrong is not something he usually does but he needed to do it today because for a moment all the fans, the players, the media, everyone was just thinking WTF? And Wenger was 100% alone (apart from the board of course who probably thought it was genius to hook Ox, save on a win bonus by turning it into a loss). It's all downhill for Wenger now. He's made himself look a fool and then tried to say everyone else is the fool. He could have even changed his mind when the boos started ringing out (what the fuck did he expect) and grabbed the 4th official and strangled him, or short of that said 15 was a mistake and fucking obviously change it to 14. Nobody could have argued with that.

[notwist]

I know this is heresy, but it's got to the point where I almost want us to lose if it will hasten Wenger's departure. How weird is that? I just feel that if he scrapes by, if he keeps us in the top 6 (then next year it'll be the top 8) etc etc, this thing will go on for ever and the decline will never stop. One disastrous season (finishing low but obviously not relegated) is probably the best thing that could happen. I feel like a traitor saying this, but I honestly can't see any other way out of this terrible spiral of decline.

[Niall_Quinn]

That hasn't been the argument for all on here. You as well. Too much emphasis has gone on the budget Wenger has to spend and players he has at his disposal. I've been saying he should be doing a lot better with the players he has and he doesn't take into consideration the oppoositons strengths and weakness or the individual players we have on our team.

The Ox has been under Wenger's nose for months now and he kept playing Arshavin. I said last week that Arshavin suited on the flanks and his lack of work there exposes us. Man Utd's major threats came from the flanks and he took off the Ox for Arshavin which made no sense attack wise and we were caught out on defence because of that decision.

I'm not arguing for the Board to sack him now because I din't think that would be the right decision, unless they have thought through who can replace him and will he have enough time to get in the players he needs to get us through this season. It here isn't much the Board can do that would have a positive effect on our season right now. I don't believe Wenger has funds being held back and even if he did, it's these sort of tactical errors that are costing us.

Do we even want those cunts to make the choice, wouldn't it be better if they all just fucked off? Who are they likely to get in? Not somebody like Mourinho, that's for sure.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

His interview was sh*t as usual, he gets defensive and plays the I know better card when it's clear he knows jack sh*t.

I'd love someone to interview him and give him hell and ask him all the questions we really want the answers to without letting him off the hook, someone like Jeremy Paxman.

He'd just get more defensive and more stubborn. But i think he will spend this week i really do now, he knows if he wants top 4 he has too reagardless of what he says.

[Dennis Bendtner]

The decision he made today can't be overlooked. He's made it worse by not holding his hands up. Admitting he's wrong is not something he usually does but he needed to do it today because for a moment all the fans, the players, the media, everyone was just thinking WTF? And Wenger was 100% alone (apart from the board of course who probably thought it was genius to hook Ox, save on a win bonus by turning it into a loss). It's all downhill for Wenger now. He's made himself look a fool and then tried to say everyone else is the fool. He could have even changed his mind when the boos started ringing out (what the fuck did he expect) and grabbed the 4th official and strangled him, or short of that said 15 was a mistake and fucking obviously change it to 14. Nobody could have argued with that.

You have a way with words.

[Ernesto]

The board aren't responsible for making a telling substitution at the correct time in any game. The board aren't responsible for giving a rousing half-time team-talk, or pre-match team-talk for that matter. The board don't teach our players that once our 'keeper boots the ball out from a goal-kick, one of us in red and white must win it first and not wait motionlessly for the opposition to win back possession and us to just hope we win it back. The board don't inform us that set-plays and corners for that matter are, in fact, an outlet for goals and not just a means for our best player to practise his crossing ability.

See where I'm going with this?

[Niall_Quinn]

I don't see how the board can be blamed when they know nothing (relatively) about football. Despite our disappointment at not winning a trophy for the last x years, you can't say we haven't come close at least once or twice and you can't say Wenger hasn't done a relatively decent job in terms of keeping us at the top of the European game (at least in terms of qualifying for the champions league). You can say that Wenger fucks up on a major level when it comes to preparing the squad to win a trophy - no better shown than in last year's CC final but I can't see why the board would sack someone that consistently gets top four and ensures fans are willing to pay the highest ticket prices in the league, when it's clear that financially we can't compete with Chelsea and Manchester City (theoretically meaning the highest we could finish is 3rd).

Of course the game isn't played on paper, and the richest clubs don't always win, but I don't see how the board can take any more than 20% of the blame as long as Wenger maintains top four. Sure, they could quibble about us signing players to try and push for a title, but they (should) know fuck all about football comparing to Wenger and if he tells them the squad is good enough they can't really argue. Wenger is the person who decides which players to buy and which players to sell, the man who decides how and for how long to play said players and the man who is responsible for motivating and organizing those players into a cohesive unit that can win things.

I would hope that he will be sacked if he falls too far below his objectives, which is CL football and if he drops out of the top four he must go. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if the board gave him 'another chance' to see if he could win that place back, given that's happened with a few other managers at top clubs.

PHW has already come out and said 4th would be "nice" but no woriies, they are milking the fans enough now to get by even without CL footie.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

The board aren't responsible for making a telling substitution at the correct time in any game. The board aren't responsible for giving a rousing half-time team-talk, or pre-match team-talk for that matter. The board don't teach our players that once our 'keeper boots the ball out from a goal-kick, one of us in red and white must win it first and not wait motionlessly for the opposition to win back possession and us to just hope we win it back. The board don't inform us that set-plays and corners for that matter are, in fact, an outlet for goals and not just a means for our best player to practise his crossing ability.

See where I'm going with this?

No but there happy for us to be midtable PHW has said as much the board have no ambition and the manager is starting to fall into their ways. they should all clear off an give us back the club we love.

[Power n Glory]

Do we even want those cunts to make the choice, wouldn't it be better if they all just fucked off? Who are they likely to get in? Not somebody like Mourinho, that's for sure.

If he decided to walk today, it would leave us in trouble and desperate to find a stop gap. No, the Board have to looking now and planning to execute when the moment is right, hopefully in the summer. If they fuck up on that side of things and appoint some useless shit, then they deserve both barrels because that is one of the most important decisions they can make and they can't get it wrong. I just hope someone there knows about Football or someone that knows about football.

[Niall_Quinn]

The board aren't responsible for making a telling substitution at the correct time in any game. The board aren't responsible for giving a rousing half-time team-talk, or pre-match team-talk for that matter. The board don't teach our players that once our 'keeper boots the ball out from a goal-kick, one of us in red and white must win it first and not wait motionlessly for the opposition to win back possession and us to just hope we win it back. The board don't inform us that set-plays and corners for that matter are, in fact, an outlet for goals and not just a means for our best player to practise his crossing ability.

See where I'm going with this?

If it's Owen Coyle I'm going to find you.