Must have been hard for Arshavin to hear that and I feel sorry for him. He's being mismanaged. I don't think the goal came from a lack of effort. He tracked back but can't tackle or mark.
But don't fall for the okey doke!the seed of dissent has been planted and some how this thread has been hijacked. Firs post of the thread and the culprit is moaning about the moaners. No comment on the result or match.
![]()
Worst thing is when Arshavin came on I turned to my mate and said 'they're gonna nick it'. 20 seconds later and guess what happened.. they scored.
Why the f*ck did Wenger take Oxo off? Reports suggest he had cramp but from where I was sitting he never once looked to the bench or made out he had fatigue. Him setting up a goal would have given him extra confidence to play better in the last 15 mins, it probably would have given him that extra oomph to really push on. United couldn't handle him so what does Arsene do.. substitute him. Worst decision he's made in years.
I've yet to see the crowd chant 'you dont know what you're doing' like they did today at Wenger, it suggests there's real ill feeling and most people are fed up.
I think Wenger's losing it, and if he doesn't buck up he'll be gone in the summer. Another trophyless season and potentially dropping out the drop 4 will put too much pressure on him, and the fans will get their way.
To be honest, I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that the crowd reaction and the change in crowd atmosphere may have affected our team performance negatively. But nevertheless, I agree that I don't think you can blame the fans for that. The fans aren't robots. They saw a ridiculous decision being made at a time when emotions were high and we had all the momentum, and they reacted to it without thinking. It was natural instincts. I think our fans will get some bad press and reputation for it but I'm glad they did it.
They were pissed off, and rightly so. Only AW is quite so skilled at wrestling a defeat from the clutches of a victory.
Probably the same shit going through his head that was going through the fans' heads. Best player hauled off, fucking up a chance of the points which we absolutely required today, the CL most likely gone, the scum 10 points clear of us, the backfiring chavs opening up a gap, the same old shit we've seen time and again. If RvP has been hearing shit behind the scenes about a change in direction or ambition then what happened today would kill that idea. We've been here too many times now. RvP won't stay, why would he? He's good enough to win something, he's spent many years here trying, but we're as far away as ever. He's broken his back this season and the reason we aren't in a deeper hole is down to him. So I guess he wonders when somebody else is going to chip in. Gallas was sulking. RvP looked more incredulous or maybe resigned. If the fans knew Ox would be hooked then I'm pretty damn sure the players could have guessed it. It's not just one substitution, it's the stubbornness and rigidity and fucked up blind faith that goes back years and was encapsulated in this one event. The straw that broke the camels back. Okay, I'm guessing. But he looked like I felt.
Für eure Sicherheit