We're not in decline.
We're just a bit shit at the moment. Emd of. Nothing that a few changes won't correct.
We're not in decline.
We're just a bit shit at the moment. Emd of. Nothing that a few changes won't correct.
It's better to burn out, than to fade away.
(tm)Originally Posted by LDG
OFMG. Someone who understands something!
You're right, league points total is not an absolute figure but a relative one. However, I just can't be bothered to run those figures. Is it still a wavy line?
Of course the only figure that people really care about is league position, and that goes:
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Which also shows stagnation, not decline. It's a flatline. And league position is also relative.OFMG. Someone who understands something!
You're right, league points total is not an absolute figure but a relative one. However, I just can't be bothered to run those figures. Is it still a wavy line?
Of course the only figure that people really care about is league position, and that goes:
1
2
4
4
3
4
3
4
Points gap between us and the champions may be interesting too.
Quite what any of these show I don't know but none show a clear, straight line decline.
Sure.
But the point is that league position does show you where you are relative to you opponents (if not how close) whereas bare points totals, taken in isolation, do not.
The difference is evinced the pattern, waviness in the points totals, bottoming out in the league position.
You're right though that neither pattern shows necessarily an ongoing decline.
OFMG. Someone who understands something!
You're right, league points total is not an absolute figure but a relative one. However, I just can't be bothered to run those figures. Is it still a wavy line?
Of course the only figure that people really care about is league position, and that goes:
1
2
4
4
3
4
3
4Lettuce don't suppose you have the cost of your season ticket(s) over this period....
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Letters, the "decline" argument appears to be a variation of the "If you are not with me, you are against me" mentality. Specifically, "As Arsenal are not winning trophies every year, therefore they must be in decline".
I agree that the points gap between the champions and Arsenal would be interesting to examine.
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Benitez. I'm serious. We'd win the champions league within three years if he was our manager.
I'd love it if Wenger went right now and we hired Benitez
Don't think it's increased significantly actually. But then it was far too bloody expensive to begin with.
Wrong, sir.
Stagnating and spectacularly capitulating on an annual basis whilst those who you use to be clearly ahead of start catching up and the environment in which you use to dominate evolves without you adapting could be interpreted as decline.
It may be circumstantial and subject to interpretation; but when competition stiffens and you start been seen as making up the numbers -- it could be interpreted as "decline".
Would you agree then, that, we have just been making up the numbers the past few seasons?
‘Arsene was very cautious and David was very ambitious for the club,’ said former director Keith Edelman, managing director at the time. ‘He was very good at getting Arsene into a position where he was comfortable spending money.’
The board have said if wenger identifies a player he really wants and he needs the money it's there. Wenger doesn't think it's worth it!
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