Okay, not enough coffee......Originally Posted by Fist of Lehmann
I know you didn't! I'm talking about Charlie's post.
And I think the premise of Charlie's post was that we still wouldn't have won anything irrespective of Chelsea (and Man Utds) money.
While all answers are responses, not all responses are answers.
It's a risk Wenger or another manager wouldn't have had to take with unlimited funds. Hell, Koscienly, Squid and our entire back line falls into that bracket. And with the point I made eariler is there was a time when we signed decent players, for the price we're now picking up dross. This transfer/wage inflation is another result of City and Chelsea spunking millions.
Managers have there strengths and weaknesses tbh. I along with everyone else admit failings in coaching defence and even attack - but it's clear that these weaknesses are only in comparison to rivals who also have structural advantages. And unless you believe Mancini or Avarm Grant are better managers than AW, it's clear that to a great extent lack of money/inability of buying a squad of ready made super stars > all of our other failings.
Last edited by AKBapologist; 14-06-2011 at 02:27 PM.
They bloody inflated it!!
That we chose not to follow suit is commendable.
WE HAD MONEY TO BUY IN JANUARY. WE DID NOT NEED A SUGAR DADDY TO GIVE IT TO US.
WE WERE NEARLY TOP OF THE LEAGUE IN JANUARY. WE WERE IN A FINAL. WE WERE IN THE FA CUP. WE WERE IN THE ECL.
The reason Wenger chose not to buy, we because he felt he could get buy without it. Foolish. But not because his hands were tied.
It's better to burn out, than to fade away.
Once again, it is wenger that doesn't want to spend. If we want a manager that will spend and demand the money to deliver, then sack wenger. WE DON'T NEED A SUGAR DADDY to replace wenger with a manager with balls to take ambitious risks in the transfer market.
Wenger doesn't want to spend. Simple. We have a manager who is not comfortable spending money AND is happy going into seasons with inadequate squads saying "I know what I am doing"!
The board have said if wenger identifies a player he really wants and he needs the money it's there. Wenger doesn't think it's worth it!
‘Arsene was very cautious and David was very ambitious for the club,’ said former director Keith Edelman, managing director at the time. ‘He was very good at getting Arsene into a position where he was comfortable spending money.’
Last edited by budesonide; 14-06-2011 at 02:36 PM.
‘Arsene was very cautious and David was very ambitious for the club,’ said former director Keith Edelman, managing director at the time. ‘He was very good at getting Arsene into a position where he was comfortable spending money.’
The board have said if wenger identifies a player he really wants and he needs the money it's there. Wenger doesn't think it's worth it!
My original argument is that at a rich club, managers could just say "I want that player" - listening to the AST interview, it's clear that's not the case at Arsenal. No idea on the specifics of Samba (and even at the time I thought it was a dumb move not getting a backup) but tbh, the problems at the back where the seeds were sown last summer with squilachi's purchase. A general degradation of the quality of our signings has been significant factor in us under performing each year.
Did you even watch the AST interview?
More than ever it was stressed just how financially constricted we were. Any other manager coming here would have to operate in the same way as far as transfers are concerned. Structural problem. Wenger could dip into a one time repositry to buy players and will do so this summer, but NO MANAGER OF ARSENAL AT THIS CURRENT POINT IN TIME CAN BUY PLAYERS WITHOUT CONSIDERATION OF VALUE. A handicap our rivals do not have!
Ivan Gladis from the AST interview. "...Removing the manager from the financial aspects to me doesn't make a lot of sense because you have to discuss the worth of a player, and as I've said, everything is about efficiency when you have a limited spend, so you need to prioritise where your going to spend your money and how much an individual player is worth, so it's very difficult for me to imagine having a manager that says 'now that's the player I want now go get him' and you make up what you think the price is - there has to be a dialogue with the manger."
Last edited by AKBapologist; 14-06-2011 at 02:45 PM.
i dont get what you're trying to say
ManU have averaged 2M spend over the last few seasons (since Glazer) and if not for the interest payments would have generally made a profit so money has less of an impact than thought.
Ferguson is so far ahead that he makes Wenger look like an amateur just starting out in the managerial game.
The King Is Back.
I think our net spend has been something like -25mill in the same period. But anyway, beyond SAF, who else comes close? Your making it sound like every other manager out there is doing better than AW in every aspect. A bit annoying tbh.
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