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    Quote Originally Posted by Toronto Gooner View Post
    Actually, Fist you took the words right out of my fingers.... There is over-the-top and there is ridiculously insane.

    The first question would have to be is Messi worth 250 million? Is that the transfer fee or the whole package? If the former (which I suspect), then how much more will he cost due to the wages?

    The next question is will Arsenal be able to recoup the money expended through the incremental increase in revenue that Messi will bring? Given that (currently) the club:
    (1) sells out the stadium, there will be no increase in seat sales; and
    (2) already plays in CL, there will be no substantial increase in revenue there, unless he wins the CL for the club every year of his contract.

    So the only ways of increasing revenue would be by increased shirt sales and non-competitive games and tours. I do not think that the money from these two endeavours would generate enough revenue to get close to breaking even.
    (3) the
    No one suggested arsenal should splash that kind on money on messi!

    we are not in the position to. But we can do far better than the dross we have been signing. As cripps said, if spending 30million on a quality striker or defender makes us go under, then fuc*K, we can't call oursleves a top football club or charge the ticket prices we do.
    ‘Arsene was very cautious and David was very ambitious for the club,’ said former director Keith Edelman, managing director at the time. ‘He was very good at getting Arsene into a position where he was comfortable spending money.’

    The board have said if wenger identifies a player he really wants and he needs the money it's there. Wenger doesn't think it's worth it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by budesonide View Post
    As cripps said, if spending 30million on a quality striker or defender makes us go under, then fuc*K, we can't call oursleves a top football club or charge the ticket prices we do.
    :Slowclap:

    Your finally starting to get it.

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    that 100 million quote should be given more context i think

    “Danny and I had dinner with Arsène in June,” PHW said. “Danny said, ‘What would you do if I gave you £100 million to spend?’ and Arsène said, ‘I would give it back to you.’ He has an economics degree from Strasbourg University and understands these things better than the board. He doesn’t want the club to go bankrupt.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz View Post
    that 100 million quote should be given more context i think
    That wasn't the question asked? Was it? Who said spending that 100 million will make the club in question go bankrupt? And which sensible manager would if it will make their club go bankrupt?
    ‘Arsene was very cautious and David was very ambitious for the club,’ said former director Keith Edelman, managing director at the time. ‘He was very good at getting Arsene into a position where he was comfortable spending money.’

    The board have said if wenger identifies a player he really wants and he needs the money it's there. Wenger doesn't think it's worth it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by budesonide View Post
    That wasn't the question asked? Was it? Who said spending that 100 million will make the club in question go bankrupt? And which manager would if it will make their club go bankrupt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by budesonide View Post
    That wasn't the question asked? Was it? Who said spending that 100 million will make the club in question go bankrupt? And which sensible manager would if it will make their club go bankrupt?
    The short term pressures of footie have caused plenty of managers to gamble, crashing out of the league. Liverpool would have been in a lot of trouble if it weren't for the new owners...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKBapologist View Post
    The short term pressures of footie have caused plenty of managers to gamble, crashing out of the league. Liverpool would have been in a lot of trouble if it weren't for the new owners...
    So would Man U; Barca, Real, etc. But they are still around.

    And so would some of the biggest companies in the world. But there is a sensible and balanced way of going about it. And that is what most posters in this thread have been arguing.
    ‘Arsene was very cautious and David was very ambitious for the club,’ said former director Keith Edelman, managing director at the time. ‘He was very good at getting Arsene into a position where he was comfortable spending money.’

    The board have said if wenger identifies a player he really wants and he needs the money it's there. Wenger doesn't think it's worth it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by budesonide View Post
    So would Man U; Barca, Real, etc. But they are still around.

    And so would some of the biggest companies in the world. But there is a sensible and balanced way of going about it. And that is what most posters in this thread have been arguing.
    It's a contraction born on the belief that we can make multiple 30mill signings on a whim when every day it's clearer that we can't.
    I think we can make one marquee signing this summer, but it'll be a one off.

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    Appropos of this, did you also see the quote where Wenger says:

    "I can't believe people would think I have £100m in the bank and be stupid enough not to spend it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fist of Lehmann View Post
    Appropos of this, did you also see the quote where Wenger says:

    "I can't believe people would think I have £100m in the bank and be stupid enough not to spend it."
    Easy to ignore, selective quoting ftw.

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