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    Quote Originally Posted by AKBapologist View Post
    It's not selective reading, just responding to the bits that make sense. At this point I feel you've chosen to believe what you've wanted to believe even though the center of your argument has shifted from we could (be less idealistic in terms of our spending model), to we should given the available evidence. So, i'm just going to end it here.


    On a separate note, is any one person actually worth £100billion? Didn't that mexican come close
    My argument hasn't shifted. IF WENGER WANTED TO SPEND 30MILLION ON A TOPCLASS PLAYER HE CAN. HE CHOOSES NOT TO! He rather spends it on multiple teenagers and nobodies because he thinks it is LESS RISKY (and fits his idea of a self-sustainable model).
    ‘Arsene was very cautious and David was very ambitious for the club,’ said former director Keith Edelman, managing director at the time. ‘He was very good at getting Arsene into a position where he was comfortable spending money.’

    The board have said if wenger identifies a player he really wants and he needs the money it's there. Wenger doesn't think it's worth it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by budesonide View Post
    My argument hasn't shifted. IF WENGER WANTED TO SPEND 30MILLION ON A TOPCLASS PLAYER HE CAN. HE CHOOSES NOT TO! He rather spends it on multiple teenagers and nobodies because he thinks it is LESS RISKY (and fits his idea of a self-sustainable model).
    And now this sustainable business model is all wengers idea, I bet he even strong armed the club into building this stadium to fit his ego.


    Nope, sorry, this model isn't a choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKBapologist View Post
    And now this sustainable business model is all wengers idea, I bet he even strong armed the club into building this stadium to fit his ego.


    Nope, sorry, this model isn't a choice.
    Oh dear!

    1). Read the quote in my sig again. WENGER HAS TO BE FORCED TO SPEND! And read PNG's post and my response earlier to Gazidis' comments.

    2). No, the self-sustainable model IS NOT his idea! BUt if he wanted to spend 30million on a player, HE CAN.

    But he does not think it is worth it. Which why he says "I KNOW WHAT I AM DOING" and "I WILL DO IT MY WAY".

    3). Wenger is free to strenghten the squad to HIS VALUATION AND HIS VALUATION ALONE!

    And no, he hasn't got a 100million budget each season to splash -- which is irrelevant and not necessary anyway (THAT IS THE POINT OF THIS THREAD).

    I have tried to debate you separately on both the sugar-daddy issue and wenger's overly cautious approach at the same time. I still can't get through to you!
    ‘Arsene was very cautious and David was very ambitious for the club,’ said former director Keith Edelman, managing director at the time. ‘He was very good at getting Arsene into a position where he was comfortable spending money.’

    The board have said if wenger identifies a player he really wants and he needs the money it's there. Wenger doesn't think it's worth it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by budesonide View Post
    Oh dear!

    1). Read the quote in my sig again. WENGER HAS TO BE FORCED TO SPEND! And read PNG's post and my response earlier to Gazidis' comments.

    2). No, the self-sustainable model IS NOT his idea! BUt if he wanted to spend 30million on a player, HE CAN.

    But he does not think it is worth it. Which why he says "I KNOW WHAT I AM DOING" and "I WILL DO IT MY WAY".

    3). Wenger is free to strenghten the squad to HIS VALUATION AND HIS VALUATION ALONE!

    And no, he hasn't got a 100million budget each season to splash -- which is irrelevant and not necessary anyway (THAT IS THE POINT OF THIS THREAD).

    I have tried to debate you separately on both the sugar-daddy issue and wenger's overly cautious approach at the same time. I still can't get through to you!
    1) I have signatures blocked, and that quote is totally irrelevant hyperbole and has been contradicted by dozens of other quotes from AW, Gladis, PHW and others so excuse me if I ignore it OK?

    2) He could make one off, 30mill signing, or spend evenly between a number of players, he has had seasons like 07/08 where he purchased Lassana Diarra, Ramsey and Nasri, for at the time, pretty much the going rate, but getting the same quality of payers for similar price since then has been immensely difficult. What's more, those transfers where heavily subsided that season, and in subsequent seasons, by PLAYER SALES.

    3) Infact the money we currently have, the surplus we're about to spend - is only there because of *Wengers*. Buying low, selling high, youth policy etc. Nothings suddenly changed, we're not loosening the purse strings, or going into more debt - we can't because we're not rich, and you've shown me NO EVIDENCE WHAT SO EVER to suggest otherwise. So buddy, you can repeat the same tired, tired quote over and over, but until you want to show prove that we can spend more than we earn, everything you've been saying is MUD.

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