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    Quote Originally Posted by ollie the optimist View Post
    handshake being comulsory as you say doesnt promote respect i get that. the question i have though is why did the fa cancel john terrys handshake and not this one? surely its both or none at all. no one covered themselves in glory but liverpool have been the worst throughout the whole affair, t shirts, statements etc. all could have been solved if first statement was we wont comment until we have report/evidence etc
    Our PR team should be flogged and sacked there's no doubt about it. But you're right, it should have been cancelled yesterday. And altogether.

    Maccy: Hypocrisy in the media? Surely not.

    Joker: I'll hazard a guess that privately the club are disappointed with Suarez. Whether he wanted to or not, frankly I don't care. Anyone could predict the furore if he didn't do it. Edit: Actually I wasn't aware of that interview in the Telegraph; Suarez has made him look a bit foolish.

    Either way, he'll be gone in the summer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joker View Post
    How was he the bigger ****? He was the one who was racially abused by Suarez, and then got a lot of abuse at Anfield and had a fan make a money gesture at him. However, he got on with the game and didn't react. And anyway, why should Suarez have such an issue with shaking Evra's hand? He's not the victim in this, Evra is. If Evra didn't want to shake Suarez's hand, I'd bet people would be up in arms and claiming Evra's playing the race card and should man up and get on with the game.

    This is not meant to be slur on Liverpool FC, as I have no problem with club or it's supporters at all. Looking back at the celebration of Evra, yes perhaps he was a bit OTT, but how Evra can be seen as having behaved worse is bizarre.

    And it seems that Suarez had told Liverpool he would shake Evra's hand, so he's let the club down in that regard as well.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...vras-hand.html

    “People are already speculating on the pre-match ceremony,” Dalglish said. “But from Luis’s point of view, we have spoken to him and I know he will shake the hand of Patrice Evra and the other Manchester United players before the game.”
    I said what I said not realising Kenny actually did come out and say Suarez would shake Evra's hand. There you go then, that shows why Suarez is getting rightly pilloried for it.

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    Should more be made of Rio Ferdinand not shaking Suarez' hand?

    Since when did he become such an activist? Could not shaking hands with the Uruguayan also incite a riot? It seems it was a pre-meditated snub as well. My reasoning behind this is that he had such a short space of time to think (and I'm not actually sure Rio thinks at all) between Suarez not shaking hands with Evra and making an informed decision to withdraw his own hand.

    He's a prat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ernesto View Post
    Should more be made of Rio Ferdinand not shaking Suarez' hand?

    Since when did he become such an activist? Could not shaking hands with the Uruguayan also incite a riot? It seems it was a pre-meditated snub as well. My reasoning behind this is that he had such a short space of time to think (and I'm not actually sure Rio thinks at all) between Suarez not shaking hands with Evra and making an informed decision to withdraw his own hand.

    He's a prat.
    Its a Non issue though, Rio did not do it out of spite like suraez he did it because he did not like the way suarez went back on his word.

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    Good save from Hennessey to deny Thomas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ernesto View Post
    Should more be made of Rio Ferdinand not shaking Suarez' hand?

    Since when did he become such an activist? Could not shaking hands with the Uruguayan also incite a riot? It seems it was a pre-meditated snub as well. My reasoning behind this is that he had such a short space of time to think (and I'm not actually sure Rio thinks at all) between Suarez not shaking hands with Evra and making an informed decision to withdraw his own hand.

    He's a prat.
    he would have shaken hands with him but he saw him ignore evra so decided not to shake a racists hand

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner View Post
    Its a Non issue though, Rio did not do it out of spite like suraez he did it because he did not like the way suarez went back on his word.
    It smooths relations, though. In my opinion, he's taking a really unnecessary "holier than thou" stance on hand-shaking. First Terry and now Suarez.

    Like I say, it would've been really interesting to see how it would've panned out had Suarez shaken hands with Evra. Turdinand, I'm guessing, still wouldn't have offered his hand to Suarez, but I'm sure he wouldn't have got anywhere near the same backlash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ollie the optimist View Post
    he would have shaken hands with him but he saw him ignore evra so decided not to shake a racists hand
    I just don't think so. And, again, I'm second-guessing the actions of a moronic footballer who believes Twitter to be the pinnacle of social convention, but I think he's incapable of making such a split second decision. It was oly De Gea separating him and Evra in the line-up, after all.

    Rio's dodged a bullet today, in my opinion.
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    Suarez deserves the flak given that assurance to Dalglish beforehand. Fair enough. Personally I still find the handshake a trivial thing that should be left to the players, but obviously Suarez didn't help his club at all. I still find the opportunism of Evra afterwards distasteful (and typical of him, I guess). I'd say he knew he was on a win-win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ernesto View Post
    It smooths relations, though. In my opinion, he's taking a really unnecessary "holier than thou" stance on hand-shaking. First Terry and now Suarez.

    Like I say, it would've been really interesting to see how it would've panned out had Suarez shaken hands with Evra. Turdinand, I'm guessing, still wouldn't have offered his hand to Suarez, but I'm sure he wouldn't have got anywhere near the same backlash.
    Well he wouldn't have got the same 'backlash' because he wasn't the one found guilty of racially abusing another player - the onus is on Suarez to show contrition, especially when his club is under the impression that he would. If you're right about Rio not thinking about things too much then it's entirely possible withdrawing his hand was a snap reaction to what he saw.

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