A fallacy quashed?

[Özim]

We could have had 300 million available and we'd still be no better off because the manager has pretty much said repeatedly he doesn't believe spending is the answer, he feels it'll stop the youngster progressing and isn't fair on them. Moreover we have some serious coaching and discipline issues which never get dealt with.

He decided to go down the youth route and refuses to accept it hasn't really worked, it's only the kids who are choosing to leave that are putting a spanner in the works.

The above reasons are why I don't think AW would have lasted 5 minutes at Real, he won't spend big money on world stars, it's just not his way and that wouldn't go down well at Real especially if the results didn't go there way.

We don't need huge amounts of money to really challenge and achieve success, we need the money to be spent appropriately and some good coaching, the problem as we've heard from many people and seen with our own eyes is that our manager refuses to make the changes.

[Coney]

Wenger has pretty well indicated that there is to be a change in this approach and Gazedis has just done the same. Due to the media being likely (certain, in fact) to take anything they say and flog it to death (like GW?) they can't be specific but both of them have indicated as clearly as I think they can be that they will be slinging out some of the crap and buying in new stock. I thought this was what people wanted him to do.

[LDG]

Wenger has pretty well indicated that there is to be a change in this approach and Gazedis has just done the same. Due to the media being likely (certain, in fact) to take anything they say and flog it to death (like GW?) they can't be specific but both of them have indicated as clearly as I think they can be that they will be slinging out some of the crap and buying in new stock. I thought this was what people wanted him to do.

No. Most people want a new manager.

I'm somewhere in the middle. If he does what he should be doing, then I'll back him again. If he doesn't and we hit August with no change, I'll be clammouring for a sacking.

[Coney]

No. Most people want a new manager.

I'm somewhere in the middle. If he does what he should be doing, then I'll back him again. If he doesn't and we hit August with no change, I'll be clammouring for a sacking.

Well, when Arsene returns from his mental illness causing him not to buy experienced players, it will be like having a new manager.

[selassie]

Wenger has pretty well indicated that there is to be a change in this approach and Gazedis has just done the same. Due to the media being likely (certain, in fact) to take anything they say and flog it to death (like GW?) they can't be specific but both of them have indicated as clearly as I think they can be that they will be slinging out some of the crap and buying in new stock. I thought this was what people wanted him to do.

Old habits die hard.

Wenger & Gazidis always flex their muscles at Season ticket renewal time, given the 6% rise they are likely to do it more so than ever his summer.

I dunno...the cynic in me says that whilst Wenger has every intention of modifying his approach, when push comes to shove he'll go searching around Ligue One looking for those "Unpolished Gems".

Wenger doesn't take part in Todays market because he doesn't believe in it and the prices that go along with it. He will revert to type...im quite sure of that.

[LDG]

Old habits die hard.

Wenger & Gazidis always flex their muscles at Season ticket renewal time, given the 6% rise they are likely to do it more so than ever his summer.

I dunno...the cynic in me says that whilst Wenger has every intention of modifying his approach, when push comes to shove he'll go searching around Ligue One looking for those "Unpolished Gems".

Wenger doesn't take part in Todays market because he doesn't believe in it and the prices that go along with it. He will revert to type...im quite sure of that.

Well, that's where we got Adebayor, Sagna, Petit, Vieira etc etc. So it can work.

And I still think Koscielny will be a good buy. Squilacci was a risk, a bit like Silvestre....seeking only to plug a gap on the cheap...this is my only worry really. If he makes that kind of signing, i.e. "knock down price on the cheap but cos he's old makes him experienced" we're fucked.

But if rumour is true, we'll do a few of those rough diamonds, a few yongsters, and most importantly, a few experienced higher priced quality signings.

[selassie]

Well, that's where we got Adebayor, Sagna, Petit, Vieira etc etc. So it can work.

And I still think Koscielny will be a good buy. Squilacci was a risk, a bit like Silvestre....seeking only to plug a gap on the cheap...this is my only worry really. If he makes that kind of signing, i.e. "knock down price on the cheap but cos he's old makes him experienced" we're fucked.

But if rumour is true, we'll do a few of those rough diamonds, a few yongsters, and most importantly, a few experienced higher priced quality signings.

It can work when the balance of the team/squad is right, but more often than not it will not work when you are mixing developing players with players who have no experience of the league/CL.

I've nothing against Arsene buying from Ligue One or even youngsters, but he needs to do it in moderation and find the right balance in the team/squad.

Koscielny isn't a bad player..but he's a classic Wenger gamble, someone who was thrown in at the deep end. He's a developing player and one that was new to the League, he should have been eased into the team.

IMHO Last summer, Arsene should have bought Koscielny & a finished product type signing for Centre Back.

But anyway....I'll wait and see with Arsene in regards to his moves in the Market this summer but I'm not expecting anything significant.

[Fist of Lehmann]

The fact we have not finshed in the top 2 or ever looked like winning a trophy tells me we would never had regardless. The attitude of the Manager/players would not have let us win a thing.

All Chelsea and the mancs spending has done, is make us finish a place lower then we would have anyway.

Just one question though.
How is it that the multi-million spending of 2 separate clubs only push us down 1 place?

Logically if 2 clubs consistently spend more than us that should elevate them both above us?

[Toronto Gooner]

Just one question though.
How is it that the multi-million spending of 2 separate clubs only push us down 1 place?

Logically if 2 clubs consistently spend more than us that should elevate them both above us?

One of those clubs was already above Arsenal.

[AKBapologist]

Chelsea and City weren't above us until they started spending silly amounts of money.