Also Tommy might need a second knee operation, so that's a squad spot that will be carried for nobody knows how long, no chance of selling him, and no guarantee he'll ever come back. We've had a few of those before, like Diaby. Club has rapidly transformed from title contenders to a luxury hospital.
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Huh well that’s hardly much difference at all, the length of a feature length Disney animation apartOriginally Posted by Letters
Well, when you're right you're right. It's 2,860 minutes for Salah, 2,776 for Havertz. So you're right, that isn't the same!
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Did we look at respective distances run, though even there I know Salah covers a fuck load of ground. So it’s either the summer off has made a difference or Salah is one of those super freaks like Ronaldo. I don’t remember him spending any significant time on the treatment table
Let’s ask our resident Liverpool fan. I could look it up myself but todays my day off and I tend to visit this place more when I’m either working or on the train (says me who is sitting on the train at the moment)
Weren’t BUPA one of our sponsors once or did I imagine this ?
but what's Salah doing in those minutes, is he expected to run up and down the pitch, one minute trying to head a cross into the opposition goal and the next heading the ball off his own goal line?Well, when you're right you're right. It's 2,860 minutes for Salah, 2,776 for Havertz. So you're right, that isn't the same!
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No he isn't and that's the difference
HCZ is the one who brought minutes played in to it
I already said that Havertz works harder.
I wouldn’t put that much trust in Chat GPT but it claims that the amount of ground both cover in the champions league is in and around the same. But Salah actually covers more than Havertz in the premier league. This is probably because Salah will receive the ball deep and run long distances with it. Apparently Salah has increased his average distance covered in games this season.
But Then you also have to factor in how much jumping both do, how many tackles they are going for etc
We are of course far from the only club beset with these kind of injuries.
So just looking at Salah’s injury total. In 7 and a half years at Liverpool. They’ve lost him for a combined total of less than 4 months (and this includes time off with Covid)
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I suggested it might be a possible factor (apparently not)HCZ is the one who brought minutes played in to it
I already said that Havertz works harder.
But I think it’s clear Havertz has been overused this season, whether we want to relate it to how many minutes he’s played or how he’s utilised on the pitch…the point stands
Whether or not Salah is a player more immune to soft tissue injuries than someone like Havertz is specculative. But the fact remains that the warning lights have been there with Havertz for some time just like they were with Saka
Last edited by HCZ_Reborn; 12-02-2025 at 02:01 PM.
Don't remember that. But we probably should have acquired them at some point given our burgeoning requirements and new transfer policies that offer significant potential for growth.
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This is pretty much where I'm at.
And Arteta expressed some disappointment about that too.
This isn't all on Arteta - not saying he's completely blameless either but I think he's getting far more of the blame than is fair.
Arteta has earned himself the reputation for someone who a) overplays certain players and b) someone who in interviews has in the past at least been dismissive of medical expertise, when Rice came off with injury in his first NLD…Arteta pretty much stated he needed to toughen up.
We know there are instances of players playing through pain. Saka, White and Jesus have all claimed as much.
Is Arteta completely to blame and no other factor comes into it? No. But I think he takes the lions share of responsibility.
Problem is he never will.
He needs to go
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