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    Not sure if I can even get excited by Aubameyang, a player I would have given my right nut for a few seasons ago. It reeks of "panic buying" .... something ironically we've become quite known for despite our supposed reputation for "financial prudence". He's also getting quite old and this just seems like one last desperate attempt to get out off Dortmund where he's burnt all his bridges with his attitude.

    Tbh I'd much rather have the funds saved to be used by a new manager and ultimately as we all know, it'd all be ultimately pointless as long as Wenger remains in charge.


    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    Le Grove states that it’s highly likely that not only will Wenger see out his contract but will extend it as well
    Le Grove is chatting bollocks for clicks as usual - what a tool. He doesn't have any inside sources to know anything.

    Look Gazidis and Sir Chips for all their faults, were in tune enough with fan sentiment, to not want Wenger to stay on last year. So they're not going to be oblivious to the current situation - they've got social media teams and other staff who monitor the situation.

    They know that re-signing Wenger yet again is simply an untenable position for the board given that now 90% at least of the fanbase want him gone and they used up whatever last good-will they had with the last contract.

    Worse case scenario is Wenger sees out this contract.

    Best case scenario is that Wenger decides to call it quits at the end of this year as part of the review clause he has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Listen bud, I'm trying to join in the fantasy transfer fun. Stop ruining it for me.
    Sorry.

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    Mikhi and Aubameyang know eachother well from their time at Dortmund and would click immedialty (if they come). Martial is a good talent but i dont think they will sell him to us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico View Post
    Not sure if I can even get excited by Aubameyang, a player I would have given my right nut for a few seasons ago. It reeks of "panic buying" .... something ironically we've become quite known for despite our supposed reputation for "financial prudence". He's also getting quite old and this just seems like one last desperate attempt to get out off Dortmund where he's burnt all his bridges with his attitude.

    Tbh I'd much rather have the funds saved to be used by a new manager and ultimately as we all know, it'd all be ultimately pointless as long as Wenger remains in charge.




    Le Grove is chatting bollocks for clicks as usual - what a tool. He doesn't have any inside sources to know anything.

    Look Gazidis and Sir Chips for all their faults, were in tune enough with fan sentiment, to not want Wenger to stay on last year. So they're not going to be oblivious to the current situation - they've got social media teams and other staff who monitor the situation.

    They know that re-signing Wenger yet again is simply an untenable position for the board given that now 90% at least of the fanbase want him gone and they used up whatever last good-will they had with the last contract.

    Worse case scenario is Wenger sees out this contract.

    Best case scenario is that Wenger decides to call it quits at the end of this year as part of the review clause he has.
    1) Sir Chips’ Hong Kong based company paid for the pro Wenger banner flown over the Hawthorns. And come on did you see the AGM the guy was a complete dick cheese.

    2) What would if matter if the entire board wanted Wenger out, there’s only one guy that matters and unless someone changes Kroenkes mind...Wenger stays as long as he wants

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    1) Sir Chips’ Hong Kong based company paid for the pro Wenger banner flown over the Hawthorns. And come on did you see the AGM the guy was a complete dick cheese.

    2) What would if matter if the entire board wanted Wenger out, there’s only one guy that matters and unless someone changes Kroenkes mind...Wenger stays as long as he wants
    1) I didn't know about that tbh. Yes the guy is a dick, but then again most people like him always are. I thought I read somewhere that both Ivan and Sir Chips wanted him gone hence why you had Wenger constantly talking about "betrayal" and a "lack of support from people who should know better" last season.


    2) I'm not an expert on these corporate governance matters for Private Ltd companies but if the entire board apart from Kroenke wanted Wenger out they could very well do that I believe. For all Kroenke's ownership power all he has is two votes on the board (him and his son). The others can simply outvote him. I'm guessing last year the other two members (Lord Harris & Friar) may have sided with Kroenke after he convinced them to stick with Wenger .... Sir Chips as well if I'm wrong about him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico View Post
    1) I didn't know about that tbh. Yes the guy is a dick, but then again most people like him always are. I thought I read somewhere that both Ivan and Sir Chips wanted him gone hence why you had Wenger constantly talking about "betrayal" and a "lack of support from people who should know better" last season.


    2) I'm not an expert on these corporate governance matters for Private Ltd companies but if the entire board apart from Kroenke wanted Wenger out they could very well do that I believe. For all Kroenke's ownership power all he has is two votes on the board (him and his son). The others can simply outvote him. I'm guessing last year the other two members (Lord Harris & Friar) may have sided with Kroenke after he convinced them to stick with Wenger .... Sir Chips as well if I'm wrong about him.
    Wenger got his contract directly from Kroenke. Technically you’re right but the board de facto serve at the pleasure of the majority share holder and they can just be replaced as they no longer own any shares with which to leverage him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    Wenger got his contract directly from Kroenke.
    Well metaphorically possibly if Kroenke wielded enough power and influence to change the position of other board members & the CEO, but not literally. Kroenke can't literally draw up contracts on a one to one basis with Wenger and get him to sign and for that to hold any legal standing.

    All Kroenke is, is the majority owner and a board member. It's Gazidis who's the CEO who has complete control of operations who gets to decide these things.

    Gazidis could theoretically fire Wenger (an employee of the club) right now legally .... it's only that presumably he'd then himself get removed from his own position by the rest of the board who'd object to it.

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    Kroenke is in total control. Nobody can outvote him on anything, as we saw when Wenger was awarded his new contract the day before the board was supposed to sit down and discuss it.

    However, Shitbag Stan can't delist the club and make it his personal plaything. He needs 75% of the shares to do that. If he reached that mark he could force all the other shareholders to sell, he could mortgage off the club, he could stick his hand in the bank account and take what he wants. And he wouldn't have to make any of his activities public.

    That's why Usmanov, love him or loathe him, is important. It's only his shareholding the prevents Slimeball Stan pocketing the whole club.

    Ivan has no power whatsoever. He can be overruled at any time by Shoddy Stan and can be kicked out the door on a whim by the aforementioned scumbag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico View Post
    Well metaphorically possibly if Kroenke wielded enough power and influence to change the position of other board members & the CEO, but not literally. Kroenke can't literally draw up contracts on a one to one basis with Wenger and get him to sign and for that to hold any legal standing.

    All Kroenke is, is the majority owner and a board member. It's Gazidis who's the CEO who has complete control of operations who gets to decide these things.

    Gazidis could theoretically fire Wenger (an employee of the club) right now legally .... it's only that presumably he'd then himself get removed from his own position by the rest of the board who'd object to it.
    The rest of the board aren’t football people. They are blue bloods with knighthoods for being part of the establishment

    Kroenke didn’t draw up the contract, but he was the one who green lighted in and then the board rubber stamped it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Kroenke is in total control. Nobody can outvote him on anything, as we saw when Wenger was awarded his new contract the day before the board was supposed to sit down and discuss it.

    However, Shitbag Stan can't delist the club and make it his personal plaything. He needs 75% of the shares to do that. If he reached that mark he could force all the other shareholders to sell, he could mortgage off the club, he could stick his hand in the bank account and take what he wants. And he wouldn't have to make any of his activities public.

    That's why Usmanov, love him or loathe him, is important. It's only his shareholding the prevents Slimeball Stan pocketing the whole club.

    Ivan has no power whatsoever. He can be overruled at any time by Shoddy Stan and can be kicked out the door on a whim by the aforementioned scumbag.
    Reluctantly I agree. That morbidly obese ball of slime appears to be the only barrier to Kroenkes total control

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