In the era of the billionaire clubs haven't Wigan and Swansea win cups, or in their case it's just flukes. Wenger has had 9x4 opportunities to win a fluke trophy and flunked. The only nonsense is the alternative reality you and the Wengerites have created for yourselves. He isn't going to win anything in the next 15 years that is a certainty. Heck we can't even win the Emirates cup anymore