What is stalling Theo??

[Kano]

Well, walcott owes anyone nothing. It is his career and life afterall -- it has always been the case. You can romanticize 'those days gone' as much as you like.

he is the commodity --- if you want it, you pay for it!

walcott didn't complain when PHW and co sold out for a handsome sum; and he wont when wenger and gazidis collect their fat bonuses


Edit: he could also choose to play for free; he is already set for life, isn't he?

we charge the market rate for fucking fish and chips, so why can't we do it for a player that can help us on the pitch ffs.

[Niall_Quinn]

Well, walcott owes anyone nothing. It is his career and life afterall -- it has always been the case. You can romanticize 'those days gone' as much as you like.

he is the commodity --- if you want it, you pay for it!

walcott didn't complain when PHW and co sold out for a handsome sum; and he wont when wenger and gazidis collect their fat bonuses


Edit: he could also choose to play for free; he is already set for life, isn't he?

That's right. And like I said, if he stays he stays, if he goes the fuck off and go. "Oh please Theo, stay Theo, don't leave us Theo", is something you won't be hearing here. For the very reasons you have just given.

[gooners]

we charge the market rate for fucking fish and chips, so why can't we do it for a player that can help us on the pitch ffs.

The irony, eh? --- i just can't wrap my head around this shit.
It's akin to someone harassing his debtors for all he is owed yet delinquent when it comes to settling his bills! What kind of shit is that?

[Niall_Quinn]

This is childish talk. Did you give a shit about Walcott's well being before he joined Arsenal? Will you give a shit about him after heleaves? No! It works both ways.

And you can't pull the loyalty card here either because he is within his rights to see out his contract. He agreed to stay for that duration and he's not looking to break that agreement. He'll honour his contract if the club don't want to offer an extension and then move on.

Yeah it's all childish talk. Everyone knows the fans are supposed to be on the shit end of every deal while the shareholders and the mercenaries they hire are always supposed to get whatever they want no matter how much it fucks the club over. This is just that normal shit I was talking about and there's nothing anyone can do to change it. So might as well cheer it instead. Er, no. I can pull the Pat Rice card any time I want mate.

[Niall_Quinn]

we charge the market rate for fucking fish and chips, so why can't we do it for a player that can help us on the pitch ffs.

Because money in is not the same as money out.

[gooners]

"Oh please Theo, stay Theo, don't leave us Theo", is something you won't be hearing here.

'theo' could be replaced with 'henry','vieira','bergy','keown', 'adams', 'wenger' etc and it will mean shit --- never meant shit.

In fact, most couldn't wait to see the back of henry!

[Niall_Quinn]

'theo' could be replaced with 'henry','vieira','bergy','keown', 'adams', 'wenger' etc and it will mean shit --- never meant shit.

In fact, most couldn't wait to see the back of henry!

Not sure at all that most wanted Henry gone. It was one of the few consolations he stayed after the defeat against Barca, as I recall. But if you're mentioning Henry, Bergkamp, Keown, Adams and even Wenger then let's take this mercenary argument to its absolute conclusion and avoid trying to be a little bit pregnant. Show me the results if you want to see the money. No doubt about any of those names you mentioned there. And now we have Walcott. The demands are there, the self interest is there, this new tolerance and even admiration of zero loyalty is firmly in place, looks like everything is there except the results. Those players you reeled off have all earned a placed in the club's legend. Theo Walcott isn't even in the foothills of their achievements yet. True enough, he's in a different and inferior team. But he wouldn't have got within sniffing distance of the teams we had in the past. Let's not confuse him for something he isn't.

[Power n Glory]

Yeah it's all childish talk. Everyone knows the fans are supposed to be on the shit end of every deal while the shareholders and the mercenaries they hire are always supposed to get whatever they want no matter how much it fucks the club over. This is just that normal shit I was talking about and there's nothing anyone can do to change it. So might as well cheer it instead. Er, no. I can pull the Pat Rice card any time I want mate.

No, you're mixed up. Us fans get fucked over when the team continues to deteriorate because of the lack of quality players and we keep seeing embarrassing results. That's being on the shit end. I'm pissed when I see bad results on the field and not what's on our balance sheet. You seem overly concerned with our balance sheet at the moment.

And no, you can't pull the Pat Rice card because you have no idea if he ever felt undervalued by the club with their contract offer but accepted it anyway.

[Power n Glory]

'theo' could be replaced with 'henry','vieira','bergy','keown', 'adams', 'wenger' etc and it will mean shit --- never meant shit.

In fact, most couldn't wait to see the back of henry!

Deja vu.

[Niall_Quinn]

No, you're mixed up. Us fans get fucked over when the team continues to deteriorate because of the lack of quality players and we keep seeing embarrassing results. That's being on the shit end. I'm pissed when I see bad results on the field and not what's on our balance sheet. You seem overly concerned with our balance sheet at the moment.

And no, you can't pull the Pat Rice card because you have no idea if he ever felt undervalued by the club with their contract offer but accepted it anyway.

Eh? You're doing it again. If somebody doesn't agree with your argument you assume they are a board member or even Arsene Wenger. Where have I expressed concern for the balance sheet? Do you seriously think I'm against Walcott being allowed to dictate where he plays and being overpaid for average performance because I want to see a healthy balance sheet? Let me be clear. I want Walcott to shut his face, play where the manager tells him, put in a consistent season rather than the odd decent game every now and again. Why do I want that? Because that's the real world where everyone else lives. But true enough, in the insanity of football it does seem reality goes out the window. But that doesn't mean you can't say, oh look, reality has just flown out the window. No need to sympathise with somebody who has given just a handful of games to the club and now wants to be top of the tree, both in terms of deciding where he plays and also being paid more than superior talent.

It's not my business if Arsenal caves and Walcott forces his demands - as PHW says, thanks for all the interest in things that don't concern me. All I'm saying is Theo Walcott is a disloyal a greedy **** and I'm demonstrating why. Is he the only **** in football? Of course not. Does that mean he is not a **** then?

I don't get the bit about Pat Rice. All I know is he's an Arsenal man through and through. I'm sure he did get wound up from time to time, don't we all. But he's no Theo Walcott.

Don't you even listen to Walcott when he's being interviewed these days? He's sticking two fingers up at you.