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[Mac76]

So just saying, if it gone the other way and we’d won the league instead of them. I would not care about fans of other clubs being graceful about us

I don't agree, I think it's become so negative and seriously it spoils what football should be about, which is supporting your team but when all's said and done being able to recognise other teams' achievements

Social channels have enabled people to spend all their time dissing it, we still have to resist the temptation to trash everything becasue we don't like it

That said when I think about it, Citeh kind of bought their titles (possibly illegally), Chelsea bought theirs and Ferguson's Man Ure had the refs in their pockets, so I'm not sure how much credit I normally give other teams for winning the league

[Letters]

Everything is so polarised. Either you have to think Liverpool put on a football masterclass this year and this is a team who will be spoken about for generations or you have to think they just got lucky and no-one else really bothered this year so it doesn't count. Neither is true.
They've been the best side. In a season where none of the other likely suspects was at the level you'd expect. So they've had no real pressure on them.
But they're still on course for 90+ points which would have seen them there or thereabouts in most recent seasons, so fair play.
They've had a few things go their way and Salah's form would not have been expected at his age - clearly he's a world class player but no-one would have expected him to have the season of his career at 32.
They definitely deserve to be champions, but I don't think this is a really standout PL team. They won't retain the title unless they spend big IMO (bumped into a Liverpool fan in the office who reckons that's exactly what they'll do)

[HCZ_Reborn]

I don't agree, I think it's become so negative and seriously it spoils what football should be about, which is supporting your team but when all's said and done being able to recognise other teams' achievements

Social channels have enabled people to spend all their time dissing it, we still have to resist the temptation to trash everything becasue we don't like it

That said when I think about it, Citeh kind of bought their titles (possibly illegally), Chelsea bought theirs and Ferguson's Man Ure had the refs in their pockets, so I'm not sure how much credit I normally give other teams for winning the league

Liverpool have won something that not only did I want us to win, I think we should have won. And again even if I didn’t believe what I’ve said (and I do believe it fully) this is very raw…took me years before I could rewatch the champions league final of 2006.

I know quite a few Liverpool fans, I didn’t congratulate them or their team in 2020 when I was actually reasonably pleased that they won it (no skin in the game). Let our players and coach be magnanimous, I’ll be bitter, resentful and wanting to punish them next season.

Liverpool are rivals. They’ve been rivals before in the late 80s, early 90s and even for a time in the early 00s (they pushed United into third in 01/02). As letters so succinctly put it “fuck them”

And if it alarms you that they aren’t getting what you regard as their due credit, take solace in the fact that the media will be effusive in their praise as they always are with Liverpool

[Mac76]

I don't think this is a really standout PL team.

I wonder how many of those we'll see in future - as I sort of said above, Citeh artificially raised the bar (yes with money, but they used it well with Pep and some very good players) but maybe things will just settle a notch or two down from that - personally I don't care if that's the case, as it should in theory make it more competitive.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Everything is so polarised. Either you have to think Liverpool put on a football masterclass this year and this is a team who will be spoken about for generations or you have to think they just got lucky and no-one else really bothered this year so it doesn't count. Neither is true.
They've been the best side. In a season where none of the other likely suspects was at the level you'd expect. So they've had no real pressure on them.
But they're still on course for 90+ points which would have seen them there or thereabouts in most recent seasons, so fair play.
They've had a few things go their way and Salah's form would not have been expected at his age - clearly he's a world class player but no-one would have expected him to have the season of his career at 32.
They definitely deserve to be champions, but I don't think this is a really standout PL team. They won't retain the title unless they spend big IMO (bumped into a Liverpool fan in the office who reckons that's exactly what they'll do)

Indeed. There’s no suggestion from anyone (me included) that they didn’t deserve to win the title. They had good fortune, but I think every title winning team does to an extent. History won’t speak about the title race or lack thereof, it will show them as champions and equalling United’s 20 titles.

I say I think we should have won it this season, because I think even without attacking reinforcements overall I think we had a better team than them, but we didn’t show it…due to injury, refereeing decisions and frankly poor coaching and poor performances from the players themselves.

Liverpool like any team can only beat who is in front of them. Doesn’t mean I owe them a round of applause…I owe them shit

[Mac76]

I say I think we should have won it this season, because I think even without attacking reinforcements overall I think we had a better team than them, but we didn’t show it…due to injury, refereeing decisions and frankly poor coaching and poor performances from the players themselves.

The factors you mention are all very true, but whether or not that means we 'should' have won partly depends on what your parameters are - e.g. you say there were "poor performances from the players themselves"

Isn't part of what makes a good player - not just how good they can be at their best, but their level of consistency at a decent level? So if Liverpool's were more consistent doesn't that arguably make them 'better' in that sense?

Sanchez actually used to annoy me because he was inconsistent and often gave the ball away, it meant that, no matter how good some of his play was, I always downgraded him in my mind

[HCZ_Reborn]

Getting into the realm of semantics somewhat but if the argument was were they better than us this season? Than the table tells us yes they were.

For example, I don’t think anyone could argue against that Hungarian copy and paste has been better than Odegaard this season, is he better overall? Well that remains to be seen. If Odegaard recovers his form I’d say definitely not

I think our defence has been demonstrated to be better, and I think the only area where they’ve been better is up front. And that’s largely (although not completely) because of Salah. That’s the difference.

It’s subjective anyway, and I have no doubt that most Liverpool fans will sincerely believe their players are better than ours

It is my fondest desire to disabuse them of that notion next season