So, how do WE win the league?

[Özim]

That's the job he has been asked to do. That's the job the shareholders would have asked any manager to do. Legally it was their club and they decided to milk it for all the cash they could get. Wenger had two options, do they job they instructed him to do or resign. But if you get a new manager doesn't he get faced with the same simple choice? Do what the shareholders want or fuck off. After that it comes down to who can at least stop the looting having a dramatic effect on our league position.

A manager can challenge a board though, Wenger has al ot of respect from the board and if he went to them and told them we needed to do a bit more and needed to succeed I'm pretty sure they would back him.

A new manager would surely only accept the job if he was given adequate funds and with the intention of bringing success back, something Wenger seems to have little interest in doing.

[Özim]

He gets banned for his hollow protests.

Maybe so, but what exactly does he do to try and change things? Very little from what we've seen, it's like being an athlete but not training that much but getting very annoyed when you don't win the race, it's hollow as you haven't worked hard enough to win in the 1st place.....sucess doesn't land on your lap, you have to work for it.

[Niall_Quinn]

Maybe so, but what exactly does he do to try and change things? Very little from what we've seen, it's like being an athlete but not training that much but getting very annoyed when you don't win the race, it's hollow as you haven't worked hard enough to win in the 1st place.....sucess doesn't land on your lap, you have to work for it.

He signed players like Merts and Arteta, the experience we all wanted and while they were fit it was working. He dropped Chamakh, got rid of Nik, shipped out Eboue, dropped Almunia and gave Ches the top spot, moved RvP into the striker role, he changed quite a lot but it can't all be done in one season. Let's see where we go this summer, Podolski already here and M'Vila maybe on the way. It's not all doom and gloom.

[Master Splinter]

It's not all doom and gloom.

The Mindless Optimism Clique(TM) Needs to be STOPPED! tbh

[Niall_Quinn]

A manager can challenge a board though, Wenger has al ot of respect from the board and if he went to them and told them we needed to do a bit more and needed to succeed I'm pretty sure they would back him.

A new manager would surely only accept the job if he was given adequate funds and with the intention of bringing success back, something Wenger seems to have little interest in doing.

Not the board - the shareholders! The ones who stood to make all the cash and when you stand back and take a look it certainly appears the last few seasons have been all about setting the club up for sale. That seems to have been the #1 priority. Can Wenger dictate on something like that? I doubt it. £500mill and even PHW can grow a set. There was more to the Fabregas/ Nasri thing than has been made public, enough slipped out to suggest Wenger may not have been fully on board. But as is the way with any company hierarchy, the shareholders will trump the manager every time if they insist. Maybe it's true that a prospective replacement for Wenger would demand investment, our lot would probably settle for no manager at all then.

[Niall_Quinn]

The Mindless Optimism Clique(TM) Needs to be STOPPED! tbh

And I would have stopped it if it wasn't for those pesky kids.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

You sound like Wenger, making excuses because of City's money. Chelsea were in this position a few years ago, Man U still won the league, with money they generated not from billionaires.

Man City's/Chelsea's spending doesn't excuse a manager from utilizing the resources he's got in a most effective way. All those expensive player contracts we have on young players/deadweight players who are not worth it, that money can be spent on strengthening the team.

Man City's/Chelsea's spending doesn't excuse a manager from not blending youth with more experience so he wouldn't 'kill' the likes of denilson and diaby.

Man City's/Chelsea's spending doesn't excuse a manager from being a good tactician on the pitch, with disciplined players that know their roles, a recognition of an opposing team's strengths and weaknesses which you can take advantage of etc.

Man City's/Chelsea's spending doesn't excuse a manager from motivating the team to have a never say die attitude, and a professional attitude towards seemingly 'easy' opponents.

We didn't need a billion to win the league in 2004 and we don't need to now. With wise and sensible acquisitions without overspending and sound management we'd be up there challenging too.

We were conned into the idea of a new stadium that would allow us to compete with the top clubs, more than 6 years later, we should be generating a decent amount of income (with manageable and sustainable debt payments that should not be impacting too hard on the pitch) to do reasonably well, from money we have generated without a sugar daddy, like Manchester United. I use the word conned because our ticket prices are some of the highest in the league. Man U took them to the last game of the season, why can't we if the right decisions were made? I'm not trivialising the issue, it isn't easy to remain competitive against bottomless pockets, but impossible? Nah.

Yes we don't need to spend Billions to win the league. But City will spend loads to retain it.

Which means we'd have to spend say 150 mill just to challenge for the thing. we could not win it buy just spending 50 mill and hoping we get some decent bargins.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

A manager can challenge a board though, Wenger has al ot of respect from the board and if he went to them and told them we needed to do a bit more and needed to succeed I'm pretty sure they would back him.

A new manager would surely only accept the job if he was given adequate funds and with the intention of bringing success back, something Wenger seems to have little interest in doing.

If he wants to get sacked he would. No manager in his right mind would challenge the board just to make a few fans happy.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Interestingly, I don't know if anyone heard or picked up on it today, but on SSN one of city's directors said that they would not be making wholesale changes to the squad this summer. They may add 1 or 2 players but they want to retain the core nucleus of players.

Maybe they won't be splashing out in the way every thinks in future?

[Niall_Quinn]

Interestingly, I don't know if anyone heard or picked up on it today, but on SSN one of city's directors said that they would not be making wholesale changes to the squad this summer. They may add 1 or 2 players but they want to retain the core nucleus of players.

Maybe they won't be splashing out in the way every thinks in future?

On the other hand it wouldn't be smart even for them to enter a transfer window shouting Loadsa Money!