I like it when Syn drinks in the afternoons
I like it when Syn drinks in the afternoons
You mean inert?Originally Posted by Syn
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If others are repeatedly accusing you of Wumming - don't you ever think the others may be right. Personally doesn't bother me, you have already stated above that you hardly watch us now so I don't know why anyone lets your comments get to them - you probably don't see the monotonous shit that Wenger is now serving up with a squad short of quality so you look at Saturday as a potential "turning point" & proof of progress.We've had so many of these "turning points" you wouldn't believe it. Those of us that watch the team home & away will tell you that come Saturday the ball & chains will be put on certain players coz were playing the mighty Utd ( the Mighty UTD that most other teams have been smashing for the past few years ) & we will either scrape a bore draw or lose to a break away Shrek goal. If we take the lead Wenger will shit it at half time & go defensive. Then when the inevitable Utd goal comes because of us defending too deep, we won't have the players on the pitch to win the game because he replaces our best players with the Arteta's & Flamini's thinking they are good enough to sit back & defend. This is the shit we are now being served, in amongst it comes the joy of the occasional win like Saturday against a pub team, more often though we are pubbing wins against pub teams, drawing them at times having had 75% of the ball & the obvious defeats/draws to the best teams where we "lacked a little quality in the final 3rd" - it will be business as normal against Utd.You have said that over and over again and I have responded over and over again as to why I see glimmers of hope that those patterns are changing. I'm not going to list those things again. You might not agree with me and that's fine. But don't say I've ignored or failed to understand the point, I've addressed it repeatedly.
If we're just going by the patterns of previous seasons then one of them has been a failure to maintain a consistent challenge. There have been seasons where we've gone off like a train only to collapse at the business end. So even if we'd won every game so far if you believe the patterns are just going to repeat then there would be no reason for optimism anyway. If the 'balance of evidence' is the last 10 years then that balance exists whatever results are so far this season.
OK, but again you can't sensibly assess that after one game or even after 7. The West Ham game did burst the bubble of positivity which had been built up in the tail end of last season and in pre-season but some of the reactions on here were ridiculous over-reactions. Last season we lost any chance of the title before we really got going. This season the start has been somewhat stuttering but results have been OK. We're in touch. No-one has gone off like a train - even City's has now derailed somewhat. IMO we're good enough to mount a challenge, if we stay in touch then I trust this lot more than I would have a few years ago to finish the job. If we fail to mount a challenge this year then I agree Wenger should go.
I can't quite believe you've said that when that is EXACTLY what a lot of people have done to me. Globalgunner has done it just a few posts above.
My position is caricatured constantly - I think Wenger can do no wrong, we could lose 10-0 to Chelsea and I'd still defend Wenger (that's pretty much a direct quote from a PnG post) and
I've said Wenger should be sacked if we don't challenge but I'll assess that at the end of the season, not the start (another opinion which is obvious but has been repeatedly lampooned - mostly by you).
What?! Most of my attempts to do so are met by abuse and WUMming.
Which is exactly what Globalgunner has done a few posts above and what has happened to me repeatedly.
Well, given my comments above - yes. All those accusations you make are EXACTLY what others have done repeatedly to me. But I'm the one being accused of WUMming
Well, no.
What usually happens is I post something fairly reasonable and people respond with abuse and WUMming and then accuse me of being a WUM.
I have no idea why anything I say would 'get' to anyone.I don't know why anyone lets your comments get to them
No. No I don't. It was a good performance and a good result against a team in form, but of course it wasn't a turning point.you probably don't see the monotonous shit that Wenger is now serving up with a squad short of quality so you look at Saturday as a potential "turning point" & proof of progress.
Most of the people who seem to violently disagree with me seem to be disagreeing with a complete caricature of what I actually think.
Well, we'll see. If that happens then yes, same old Arsenal...Those of us that watch the team home & away will tell you that come Saturday the ball & chains will be put on certain players coz were playing the mighty Utd & we will either scrape a bore draw or lose to a break away Shrek goal.
But let's actually wait and see. I should point out you were saying the exact same thing before the quarter final at Old Trafford:
http://www.goonersweb.co.uk/forum/sh...?t=3253&page=5
And, to be fair, that's an understandable view. We have and a long and wearying history of cocking up these big games. But we won that one, we won at City, there are just glimmers we can stand up in these games. I saw the Chelsea game as important - it was the first of those big games this season. But it was 0-0 before Dean decided to step in and hand Chelsea the points on a silver platter - one they'd probably bought for him. So I'm not sure we can conclude anything from that result. I see the Utd game as important - it's this sort of game that if we're serious about the title we have to win, simply not losing, while not a disaster, isn't really good enough.
No, I mean shit. Really shit.
I posted my comments after a 5-2 victory at Leicester because I know what happens next. Most Arsenal fans know what happens next after a decent win - I post this 3 days later after losing to a Greek team who have never won a C.L. game in England in previous 12 years. Can you see why I don't share your thoughts on Wenger maybe getting things right. It aint happening Letters.Well, no.
What usually happens is I post something fairly reasonable and people respond with abuse and WUMming and then accuse me of being a WUM.
I have no idea why anything I say would 'get' to anyone.
No. No I don't. It was a good performance and a good result against a team in form, but of course it wasn't a turning point.
Most of the people who seem to violently disagree with me seem to be disagreeing with a complete caricature of what I actually think.
Well, we'll see. If that happens then yes, same old Arsenal...
But let's actually wait and see. I should point out you were saying the exact same thing before the quarter final at Old Trafford:
http://www.goonersweb.co.uk/forum/sh...?t=3253&page=5
And, to be fair, that's an understandable view. We have and a long and wearying history of cocking up these big games. But we won that one, we won at City, there are just glimmers we can stand up in these games. I saw the Chelsea game as important - it was the first of those big games this season. But it was 0-0 before Dean decided to step in and hand Chelsea the points on a silver platter - one they'd probably bought for him. So I'm not sure we can conclude anything from that result. I see the Utd game as important - it's this sort of game that if we're serious about the title we have to win, simply not losing, while not a disaster, isn't really good enough.
Last night was...a bit disappointing.
Let's see how we do vs Utd, if we balls that up too then yeah, fine, I give up.
It's a slight exaggeration to suggest that every decent win is followed by a poor result.
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