That's baseless.Originally Posted by LDG
It's been a long 9 years and if he was dissatisfied with the results and thought we were failing, I think we'd have seen dramatic changes a while back.
That's baseless.
It's been a long 9 years and if he was dissatisfied with the results and thought we were failing, I think we'd have seen dramatic changes a while back.
Don't Letters me, you cheeky cunt
I'm not spoiling for an argument mate, I'm just saying it how it is. Of course he's a politician in the way he speaks, and you know it.
It's better to burn out, than to fade away.
Don't Letters me, you cheeky cunt
I'm not spoiling for an argument mate, I'm just saying it how it is. Of course he's a politician in the way he speaks, and you know it.Got me!
He can play it coy and politician like, but I don't think that's what's going here. If he truly felt differently to what he's presented in the media, I think he'd have left or demanded a change. Even if we had funds restricted, I at least expect him to get players like Denilson and Almunia out of the team a lot earlier than he actually did. I think he's too patient and philosophical with his outlook. His words and actions correlate on this occasion.
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It's better to burn out, than to fade away.
He can play it coy and politician like, but I don't think that's what's going here. If he truly felt differently to what he's presented in the media, I think he'd have left or demanded a change. Even if we had funds restricted, I at least expect him to get players like Denilson and Almunia out of the team a lot earlier than he actually did. I think he's too patient and philosophical with outlook.
I dunno. This whole thing is such a headfuck when you start reading about it on the web, and analysing every single thing that is said, read opinion after opinion on tactics, boardroom movements, transfers etc etc.
We all know by now that he has his weaknesses. The hammering we got from Chelsea was the last straw for me in a lot of respects, because I know he won't change. I keep sticking by him, as I believe he loves the club, I love what he has done for the club, and I would like nothing more than to see him succeed. But it's heartbreaking and angering at the same time to have the piss ripped out of us again and again.
I fully believe he wants to win. But he's too stubborn to change his ways in order to make that happen. It's quite massachistic if you think about it.
I said "no" to the poll, a) out of respect and b) knowing how difficult he is to replace at this point in time. It's a scary prospect to me.
But the Chelsea hiding taught me that it will just keep happening, as I don't believe in coincidence. So in that respect, he has to go.
I don't for one second think he deserves to be villified and ripped apart by the fans though.
It's better to burn out, than to fade away.
Question to you about the vilified part though.. I disagree with the abuse to him (despite me being a culprit in my younger days). Do you think that if he continues in charge and if things continue the same way, it will justify him being ripped apart by fans? To put it simply, if you were to put a time frame, after how many more months/years do you think it be considered ok?
From my perspective, he ran out of time in 2009 and while I do not condone the abuse he gets, I understand why he gets it. I can see where a lot of the anger is coming from... IMO, fans have every right to rip him apart, as long as its not personal.
Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..
He has said, to be a manager you spend a lot of time suffering. He does have SnM ways about him. Throw in his voyeurism....one messed up individual.
On a serious note, I think Wenger is a man with strong convictions and follows his gut. As Paddy said, his faith is his greatest asset and also his weakness. I'm not trying to throw shots at him when I say this, just trying to get a grip on what's been going on over the last 9 years. I think it's his time to go to and it's not just because of the results. It's the comments that come after and looking deeper into the way he sees football from his quotes, what other players say and then what we see on the pitch. I think his time has passed and what worked before won't work now. I think we'd need a major cash injection for his ways to work now because we need players way better than the competition to dominate again. I don't think that's possible with the other super rich clubs floating around us.
IMO if we were going to change manager it should have been a couple of years ago.
Two big criticisms of Wenger are that he won't spend big and we're not winning trophies any more.
Last year we smashed our transfer record on Ozil and made a big bid for Suarez. The new commercial deals should see us able to continue that level of signing.
We really should win the FA Cup.
If we do then I'm not sure that's the right time to be changing manager with all the upheaval that could bring.
A couple of years ago you wouldn't hear of him leaving...A couple of years from now you still wont want to hear of him leaving. Twenty years from now you'll still want him to stay, Even if we blow this years FA cup you'll find a way to blame the ref, the lousy stadium. Someone spiking their pre game meal. Anything
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