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Thread: Wenger Referendum II - And this time it's personal

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    Are we still saying we’re playing with the handbrakes on because it certainly didn’t look that way yesterday. I think this is the usual post defeat slump we often see where one defeat often results in us losing our swagger. Now it’s looking like we can’t afford to rest players in the last game because our form looks really bad for the final.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Are we still saying we’re playing with the handbrakes on because it certainly didn’t look that way yesterday. I think this is the usual post defeat slump we often see where one defeat often results in us losing our swagger. Now it’s looking like we can’t afford to rest players in the last game because our form looks really bad for the final.
    As someone else said, we have a nice little run going until we get top 4 and then we sit back and pat ourselves on the back telling ourselves how well we've done winning another major trophy. That's the mentality we've had for 10 years now and that's why we'll never challenge the big boys, winners don't accept 2nd best, sadly we do.

    The clubs' ambition is to qualify for the CL, the rest they just don't seem interested in.

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    They only slacked off when the title was no longer possible...
    But we could do with a win in our last game to give us a bit of a boost before the Final.
    That said it's debatable how much difference it makes, last year we finished the season with 5 wins in a row (including thumping Hull away). Hull only got 1 point out of 15 in their last 5 games and we still ended up being 2-0 down after 10 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    They only slacked off when the title was no longer possible...
    But we could do with a win in our last game to give us a bit of a boost before the Final.
    That said it's debatable how much difference it makes, last year we finished the season with 5 wins in a row (including thumping Hull away). Hull only got 1 point out of 15 in their last 5 games and we still ended up being 2-0 down after 10 minutes.
    I believe form goes out the window, its a one off game. A cup final. a game of two halves. he's not that sort of player. etc

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    It's a simple proposistion of simply not scoring goals, four goals in the past five league matches.

    The tactical argument isn't of such importance, we had enough efforts on goal to win the games against Swansea and Sunderland (the results which would see us in second instead of third), we persist with a striker we all know is not good enough and is in horrendous form because we have no other striking options and because our midfielders like Cazorla and Ozil aren't chipping in enough with goals.
    It doesn't really matter about how deep Swansea and Sunderland played, because we were able to create chances but not put them away, collectively 16 shots on target in both games which is enough both games with plenty to spare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    It's a simple proposistion of simply not scoring goals, four goals in the past five league matches.

    The tactical argument isn't of such importance, we had enough efforts on goal to win the games against Swansea and Sunderland (the results which would see us in second instead of third), we persist with a striker we all know is not good enough and is in horrendous form because we have no other striking options and because our midfielders like Cazorla and Ozil aren't chipping in enough with goals.
    It doesn't really matter about how deep Swansea and Sunderland played, because we were able to create chances but not put them away, collectively 16 shots on target in both games which is enough both games with plenty to spare.
    We created plenty of chances but I think we've seen plenty of games like this and it's the byproduct of Wenerball. The more efficient we become at moving the ball, the more compact we get and more dominant we become on the possession side. It forces teams back and we get these games where we have goal mouth scrambles and or just shot block after block and pass after pass.

    It's funny because when this team were less confident on attack, we'd get those more clear cut chances where we're hitting teams on the counter. Plus we'd be more organised on defence but yesterday we looked very vulnerable and we're lucky not to concede. It's a style that leads to nowhere and we've seen it before under the Cesc era. We restrict our own space but offer acres to our opponents. It's made worse when we're selecting CM's to play wide.

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    We could do with a manager who doesn't need 3-4 games of the same failings to make a change. Somebody who has more than one tactical card in his hand. Somebody who gets off his seat during a game and shouts "Stay on the fucking touchline you cunt!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    They only slacked off when the title was no longer possible...
    But we could do with a win in our last game to give us a bit of a boost before the Final.
    That said it's debatable how much difference it makes, last year we finished the season with 5 wins in a row (including thumping Hull away). Hull only got 1 point out of 15 in their last 5 games and we still ended up being 2-0 down after 10 minutes.
    10 points away from chelsea the day before we play them. a win would take us 7 away. wenger was talking up catching chelsea.

    they were unbeaten since new years day, so probably also due a defeat.

    in the players eyes they should be thinking let’s give it all we have and see what happens. that certainly didn’t happen in the chelsea game.

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    Even if the players thought they were playing for the cup final place, but we know that's not the case. The run in has been a disgrace, but that's okay because it doesn't matter how we perform provided we have the next CL cash stream secured.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    We created plenty of chances but I think we've seen plenty of games like this and it's the byproduct of Wenerball. The more efficient we become at moving the ball, the more compact we get and more dominant we become on the possession side. It forces teams back and we get these games where we have goal mouth scrambles and or just shot block after block and pass after pass.

    It's funny because when this team were less confident on attack, we'd get those more clear cut chances where we're hitting teams on the counter. Plus we'd be more organised on defence but yesterday we looked very vulnerable and we're lucky not to concede. It's a style that leads to nowhere and we've seen it before under the Cesc era. We restrict our own space but offer acres to our opponents. It's made worse when we're selecting CM's to play wide.

    Whilst as a whole I don't in anyway disagree with you, the fact still remains that bad tactics or not we'd still have won both those games with a better striker than Giroud.
    If we played with more pace wide (the amount of space on the flanks yesterday was unbelievable) and got in behind the defence more we'd have created double the chances we did against Swansea and Sunderland, but still though we created enough chances in both games for better finishers to stick it away.

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