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Thread: Summer Transfer Misery and Recriminations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kano View Post
    Of course he cares. The disconnect comes from he deems as sufficient enough to do a successful job - or even what he deems as success now. As far as he is concerned, he is doing what is necessary to be successful. But nearly all of us - on this small fan board - see it differently.
    Oh come on Kano, the definition of "caring" can be somewhat subjective with Wenger involved. His definition of caring could be such that if Arsenal makes profit and doesn't get relegated from PL then he is doing a good job. His definition could be that if Arsenal make top 4 then he is doing a good enough job.

    The definition of success in a Football club of our stature should be winning or at the very least being as competitive as possible so we can consistently compete for the major honours. Wenger and Gazidis talks about us like we are disadvantaged, we are not, we are just not competitive. It really isn't just this small fan boards that see it differently, honestly...the general consensus seems to be that Arsenal are not competing or doing as much as they can with their resources to be competitive. We are a totally unique football club, one of the only ones out there with the resources we have that flat out refuse to compete.

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    Look at David Dein's interview in the lead up to his 1000th game.
    That will tell you whether he cares how we do better than us internet twats endlessly speculating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    Well I can provide evidence to as to why I think he doesn't:

    1) Blames the fans for the teams problems
    2) Never addresses the problem areas
    3) Would rather do things his way than the logical way, even if it affects our chances of success
    4) Makes all the excuses under the sun as to why he doesn't spend
    5) Doesn't think twice about choosing his favourite players over players who are better suited/have performed better
    6) Dismisses the fans concerns as media influence

    Where's your evidence to support your opinion?
    You realise that none of that evidences that he doesn't care

    1) Doesn't want to blame the players
    2) May not see the problem areas
    3) Evidence of stubborness
    4) Covering for incompetence, he acknowledged that he needed to spend couldn't get it done
    5) If they are his favourite players suggests he thinks they are the better ones even if he is wrong to believe that
    6) Deluded

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    Well I can provide evidence to as to why I think he doesn't:

    1) Blames the fans for the teams problems
    2) Never addresses the problem areas
    3) Would rather do things his way than the logical way, even if it affects our chances of success
    4) Makes all the excuses under the sun as to why he doesn't spend
    5) Doesn't think twice about choosing his favourite players over players who are better suited/have performed better
    6) Dismisses the fans concerns as media influence/doesn't care about fans being unhappy and pretends we're entertaining despite evidence to the contrary
    7) Supports and defends season ticket increases

    Where's your evidence to support your opinion?
    Let's say you're not missed by the legal world and leave it there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Look at David Dein's interview in the lead up to his 1000th game.
    That will tell you whether he cares how we do better than us internet twats endlessly speculating.
    Here we go again.....Dein left years ago pal, you always bring up the same rubbish.

    LeClown is an arrogant, self absorbed patronising man, no doubt about it, only someone blind can't see through this, he's good at brainwashing though I'll give him that, he's bought himself over 10 years thanks to it.
    Last edited by Özim; 22-08-2016 at 02:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kano View Post
    Let's say you're not missed by the legal world and leave it there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kano View Post
    Let's say you're not missed by the legal world and leave it there
    Thanks for that, proved my point then, it's laughable that people say he cares, there's no evidence to show this, he only stays because football is his life and he makes a pretty good living out of it
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    To be fair I think idle speculation from people who have never met him is far more relevant and better evidence that the thoughts of someone who worked with him for years and still sees him regularly.

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    Not really no, Dein is his friend he's hardly going to say anything bad about him, he brought him to Arsenal, think about it.
    Last edited by Özim; 22-08-2016 at 02:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    So it's just a coincidence that he came out with the statement at the time when Wenger's dithering had hit it's peak?
    That's my point. That statement wasn't designed to reassure the fans. He's smart enough to know to gauge the temperature with the fans. He's spoken with Le Grove and spoken with Arsenal Fan TV. He saw how bad things were last season so it's not as if he's unaware and he just made a clumsy statement. That looked like gas on the fire.

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