Wenger Referendum II - And this time it's personal

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

If you look at the Barca situation, they are still competing at the top of their league & the C.L. with a manager who has he doubters. But with the players they have, the teams they regularly play I would suggest that Nigel Pearson would be getting similar results if he was their manager. How much more can you teach the likes of Messi etc. Put quality players into a system where they have quality replacements & you get continuity.
We regularly win the 4th place trophy because we have continuity through our manager & the way he tries to play but again could Nigel Pearson be getting similar results with our squad & spending power.
If we actually want to challenge we need the continuity that we have to be broken & this can only be with a new manager.
There is not a job in the world where you are better at 65 than when you were 50. We need a younger guy in who has learnt his trade during the period that billionaires have ruined our game. Having money ofcourse is a major benefit but you can only have 11 players on the pitch. A manager that will pay for transfer fees ( within reason ) without arguing over a few million quid when he thinks we need that type of player is essential. Wenger seems to never want to give in to anyone & we have missed out on a lot of players because of his penny pinching. Ozil & Sanchez are quality players but we have badly neglected key areas in defence, DM & prolific striker for too many years now - even when we have had the money.

It is widely thought within the industry of design and architecture that architects peak at 60 for various reasons. I won't bore you with why. Though I'm sure people can think of other jobs where it is possible.

[Özim]

I'm not going for the "one more season" thing again, he's had one more season for as long as I remember. It's time for him to move on now, sure we're doing OK at the moment but we've been nowhere for most of the season and it's the same every season, it's been a very poor quality league this time round where all the bigger teams have been under par bar maybe Chelsea in any other season we'd be in all likelyness not in the top 4 right now, I just don't see Wenger as the man to take us forward, he's had plenty of opportunities and failed to deliver I'm afraid.

Let's thank him for all the memories and let someone else have a go at building something we cn be excited about now.

[Letters]

It's nice to see us beat a shit Utd (like we should have done earlier in the year), but for me the only stand out result so far this year, is the win away to City. That's still a one off for me, as I don't regard Utd as any good at all. All we did was do what we should have done.

That's a bit harsh. I don't rate Utd that highly either but actually their results are pretty good this year, they've only lost 3 games at home all season, including ours. They beat Liverpool, drew with Chelsea, haven't played City or us yet in the league.

And I certainly don't agree we have had many embarrassments this season, certainly not double figures.

[LDG]

That's a bit harsh. I don't rate Utd that highly either but actually their results are pretty good this year, they've only lost 3 games at home all season, including ours. They beat Liverpool, drew with Chelsea, haven't played City or us yet in the league.

And I certainly don't agree we have had many embarrassments this season, certainly not double figures.

Besiktas - We struggled through CL qualification 1-0 on aggregate with some really poor football. If their strikers weren't dogshit, we would have gotten bungled.

Leicester - Drew 1-1 against the newly promoted whipping boys. We were awful

Dortmund - Got outplayed by a woefully out of form Dortmund, possibly one of the worst performances this year for application and preparation

Southampton (Rumbelows Cup) - Got banged out of the league cup in the first round

Spurs - 1-1 at home against a side who were really struggling. We didn't turn up and spurned a great chance to get our season going

Chelsea - 0-2 after last season, you would expect we'd be right up for this. No. We bottled it again, and had it not been for poor finishing on Chelsea's part, we would have been trounced again. The result was very flattering on us.

Hull - 2-2 looked like a nailed on thrashing when Alexis netted early. Then we proceeded to gift them two goals, and only just about managed to get level through Welbeck at the end. Was there, and it was shite.

Anderlecht - 3-3 Three up at half time, and another Arsenal collapse saw us give away three second half goals. Shocking

Swansea - 1-2 Same old, same old. No respect for the opposition. Fucking dire football, which then was repeated in....

Man Utd 1-2 at home against a shambolic Utd team there for the taking, just like Spurs were earlier in the season. We just gave it to them on a platter.

Stoke 2-3 again, we should have known what was coming at that shit hole. After all, it happens every year. And we got another gutless performance, and let fucking Peter Crouch (Peter Fucking Crouch) score in the first minute. 0-3 down at half time!! Against Stoke!!

Saints 0-2 same again. Gutless, rubbish, insipid performance

Spurs 1-2

Monaco 1-3 (only two weeks ago)

Enough rubbish for you??

[Letters]

You're having to reach a bit there. I don't think many if any of those are humiliations, there are some really poor performances and results but you can cherry pick those for any club in any season. None of those are like last year's hammerings. Admittedly I didn't see all of those, I did see the Dortmund one and agree we were really awlful that day. I'll give you Stoke too as we were 3-0 down at half time. Against Stoke

[GP]

Besiktas - We struggled through CL qualification 1-0 on aggregate with some really poor football. If their strikers weren't dogshit, we would have gotten bungled.

Leicester - Drew 1-1 against the newly promoted whipping boys. We were awful

Dortmund - Got outplayed by a woefully out of form Dortmund, possibly one of the worst performances this year for application and preparation

Southampton (Rumbelows Cup) - Got banged out of the league cup in the first round

Spurs - 1-1 at home against a side who were really struggling. We didn't turn up and spurned a great chance to get our season going

Chelsea - 0-2 after last season, you would expect we'd be right up for this. No. We bottled it again, and had it not been for poor finishing on Chelsea's part, we would have been trounced again. The result was very flattering on us.

Hull - 2-2 looked like a nailed on thrashing when Alexis netted early. Then we proceeded to gift them two goals, and only just about managed to get level through Welbeck at the end. Was there, and it was shite.

Anderlecht - 3-3 Three up at half time, and another Arsenal collapse saw us give away three second half goals. Shocking

Swansea - 1-2 Same old, same old. No respect for the opposition. Fucking dire football, which then was repeated in....

Man Utd 1-2 at home against a shambolic Utd team there for the taking, just like Spurs were earlier in the season. We just gave it to them on a platter.

Stoke 2-3 again, we should have known what was coming at that shit hole. After all, it happens every year. And we got another gutless performance, and let fucking Peter Crouch (Peter Fucking Crouch) score in the first minute. 0-3 down at half time!! Against Stoke!!

Saints 0-2 same again. Gutless, rubbish, insipid performance

Spurs 1-2

Monaco 1-3 (only two weeks ago)

Enough rubbish for you??

Yeah but apart from that...

[LDG]

You're having to reach a bit there. I don't think many if any of those are humiliations, there are some really poor performances and results but you can cherry pick those for any club in any season. None of those are like last year's hammerings. Admittedly I didn't see all of those, I did see the Dortmund one and agree we were really awlful that day. I'll give you Stoke too as we were 3-0 down at half time. Against Stoke

I think the point, is that a club with ambition, doesn't crap out like that. We have a squad that should be rivalling Chelsea for the title off the back of last season.

We have failed miserably to live up to that this season.

[Özim]

You're having to reach a bit there. I don't think many if any of those are humiliations, there are some really poor performances and results but you can cherry pick those for any club in any season. None of those are like last year's hammerings. Admittedly I didn't see all of those, I did see the Dortmund one and agree we were really awlful that day. I'll give you Stoke too as we were 3-0 down at half time. Against Stoke

We saved all our humiliations for last season where we got pummelled by a number of teams. This season it's just been indifferent form, some awful results and some pretty poor performances even when we have won. The standard of the league has been shocking, we're fortunate it has been or we'd be nowhere.

[Power n Glory]

I think the point, is that a club with ambition, doesn't crap out like that. We have a squad that should be rivalling Chelsea for the title off the back of last season.

We have failed miserably to live up to that this season.

Letter's is too far gone. If a turd needs polishing, he's your man for the job.

[Letters]

I think the point, is that a club with ambition, doesn't crap out like that. We have a squad that should be rivalling Chelsea for the title off the back of last season.

We have failed miserably to live up to that this season.

Chelsea have had some stinkers too

Chelsea 1 - Shalke 1 (Really should be beating them at home).
NK Maribor 1 - Chelsea 1 (Who? )
Chelsea 2 - PSG 2 (Played against 10 men for most of it)
Chelsea 2 - Bradford 4 ()
Chelsea 1 - Burnley 1
Chelsea 3 - Spurs 5.
Sunderland 0 - Chelsea 0

I honestly don't know what to make of this season, it feels like we've been pretty disappointing but we could yet finish 2nd and win the Cup, that wouldn't be a bad season. We should be challenging for the league but I do see the results in Manchester as significant in terms of our ability to win those big games. I agree with FY that we need to beat Chelsea at home. If we do that then I think we've got a real chance of pushing on next season although concede we've thought that before.