What is stalling Theo??

[Syn]

No he isn't. Jack hasn't played enough games, scored enough goals, lead the team and pulled us through tough tiimes to earn around that amount. He's a talent and one for the future puts in a shift every game but in no way is in such a different bracket, especially now after coming back from his injury. He's droppable for Rosicky right now. If we're going to talk about performance related wages then Jack isn't there at all. Doesn't score enough, set up enough goals and isn't keeping the team ticking over with his passing. In a season or two, no doubt he'd be worth the £85k but that's potenetial and not performance.

Utter rubbish. Goals and assists is the only contribution simpletons seem to be able to refer to. I'm above this anyway.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

the only qualm i have with jack is his lack of bottle in front of goal.

always looking for the sublime assist in the penalty area when he can just lace into the back of the net. he can easily get 10 goals a season and it grinds me everytime he looks for a needle in the haystack because usually it doesnt come off.

but apart from that he's worth the hype. as i said, these english players demand a premium because of supply and demand. jack could easily get 80k a week elsewhere so he should be on that here.

there's no good bashing the club over british players because they are a niche market. a rare instance. if anything have qualms over shocking signings like squillaci, park, chamakh and santos. none were young when they came here so there are no excuses for them turning out crap. isnt our scouting system supposed to be one of the best? how the heck have we managed to rack up an accumulation of tosh like that in the space of a few years?? overaged, overhyped beamers who erode our already unstable wage bill. you'd think after the first few the scouts would have taken extra care but the conveyor belt of garbage just continued.

there's something seriously wrong at this club from physio's to board, to wage bill to management decisions.

[Cripps_orig]

I'm in the jack is overhyped camp, let's wait for him to do something first! I'd also like him to not be such a wimp, he likes to dish it but he can't take it back.

Funny thing is, all this shit said about Jack being the next big thing was said about Theo in 2006

[Kano]

why are people so hung up on whether he 'deserves' a certain amount of money? the ticket prices will remain as high as ever and the club have already wasted millions on players wages for nothing, so what is the difference to anyone in real terms? it's just a figure on a contract, on a website, in the news tossed out to the fans. does paying him 20k/30k mean anything when we live in a world of silly money and fan exploitation anyway. how can anyone justify their wages?

[AKBapologist]

Funny thing is, all this shit said about Jack being the next big thing was said about Theo in 2006

Pretty much. This place is mental.

[Marc Overmars]

My feeling is that people have become too precious over the fact he rejected the initial offer. If we had just offered 90k (which is what we're seemingly prepared to do now) no one would have bat an eye lid and we wouldn't be discussing what he's worth.

I'd love to know how someone like Ramsey managed to get a new deal despite doing sod all. I don't know why this club is prepared to pay for potential but squirms like a little bitch when something could affect the here and now.

[Power n Glory]

Utter rubbish. Goals and assists is the only contribution simpletons seem to be able to refer to. I'm above this anyway.

Don't wum cause it's not your style.

So after one season we're saying JW has earned to earn around the same amount it took players like Henry, RVP, Cesc some years to get to? It's not just goals and assists, if he could keep our play flowing like how Cesc could when he was much younger than Jack then I'd see your point. He's looking lost in the middle right now and hasn't controlled the tempo of a game.

Time will tell because he's coming back from injury but it's flawed to talk about consistency and top level performances when he's only played one full season for us and hasn't performed anywhere near the level of Cesc.

[Letters]

Funny thing is, all this shit said about Jack being the next big thing was said about Theo in 2006

Young English players are always massively over-hyped. Theo has taken a lot longer to develop than was hoped although he does seem to be getting there now. I'm still not sure about him at times but he is delivering goals and assists and his finishing is excellent.
Jack looks like the real deal but it's a bit early to say just yet. He's not sparkled this season but he is just coming back from quite a serious, long-term injury so shouldn't be written off. Before his injury he was showing a lot of promise.

[Marc Overmars]

why are people so hung up on whether he 'deserves' a certain amount of money? the ticket prices will remain as high as ever and the club have already wasted millions on players wages for nothing, so what is the difference to anyone in real terms? it's just a figure on a contract, on a website, in the news tossed out to the fans. does paying him 20k/30k mean anything when we live in a world of silly money and fan exploitation anyway. how can anyone justify their wages?

Spot on.

The game is the problem, not the players.

[Cripps_orig]

Young English players are always massively over-hyped. Theo has taken a lot longer to develop than was hoped although he does seem to be getting there now. I'm still not sure about him at times but he is delivering goals and assists and his finishing is excellent.
Jack looks like the real deal but it's a bit early to say just yet. He's not sparkled this season but he is just coming back from quite a serious, long-term injury so shouldn't be written off. Before his injury he was showing a lot of promise.

No one is denying Jack is a good player and has the potential to be even better but at the moment, is he worth 85k a week? Forget about the real world cos no footballer is worth that. Lets stick to the footballing world and even then i wouldnt say hes worth that but yet hes been given that and we are haggling over Theos wages despite him being arguably more important to us in terms of goals and assists as they are undoubtedly the most important things in football.

As MO said, we have given Jack 85k a week for his potential but dont want to pay Theo for the here and now which is ludicrous.