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    Quote Originally Posted by ollie the optimist View Post
    rio ferdniand has the same thing as jack did before. dont remember a fuss made baout that at all.
    That's because he didn't say anything about England for the English and remembering who we are as if there is some sort of identity crisis here. He also said it's for the FA to decide.

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    His form has been crap all season, he has been caught out smoking which rightly or wrongly resulted in a fair bit of hullabaloo. Is it too much to ask for him to just stfu and keep a low profile rather than invite more controversy when he should be concentrating on making a significant improvement into his contribution to the team?

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    Also one of his best mates is Fabrice Muamba who he played alongside with in the Arsenal youth team, England U21's and on loan at Bolton. And he was born in the DR Congo and only came here when he was aged 11 and couldn't speak a word of English.

    Same with #Dench who was born in Ghana and has played for the English youth teams alongside Jack and they're practically BFF as there twitter feeds would attest to.

    It's getting particuarly clear what he's was specifically referring to in this case. So for the Torygraph to come out with an editorial like this is just ridicolous. Insuinating that he's against Mo Farah :facepalm:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...e-society.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve French View Post
    His form has been crap all season, he has been caught out smoking which rightly or wrongly resulted in a fair bit of hullabaloo. Is it too much to ask for him to just stfu and keep a low profile rather than invite more controversy when he should be concentrating on making a significant improvement into his contribution to the team?

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    Didn't Tommy Robinson stand down as EDL leader?

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    It's made headlines for a reason. Journalist could have posed this question to a load of players throughout the day but this was by far the best quote to move papers. He needs new advisors and needs to come off Twitter. Many will think this is an agenda from the media but in truth, it's all ranked on content. If John Terry had said or done some shit, they wouldn't devote much time to this story. They are vultures but no need to give them freebies and feed them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ollie the optimist View Post
    even if they are an association side, two of those players (morgan and rankin) have played against england in a world cup and now play for england. that just isnt right IMO. ok different sport but its the same kind of argument. you play for one country and thats it, and the country you play for is the one that you call your country not the one that will give you most chance of success. so morgan, rankin etc say they are irish, why should they play for england? they dont say they are english but irish.

    Andy Murray will be aninteresting one if scotland get independence.
    They can say still they are Irish but representing England. I don't think we should really compare across sports though, for instance in cricket they get match fees for playing international matches but they don't get paid as such in football playing for England. I'd rather stick to football for this, after all Wilshere did say to KP as such that he was only thinking in terms of football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost... View Post
    That's because Ireland are an association side though and essentially not professional. That situation doesn't often happen in football, ok thinking about it maybe with Diego Costa but that's because he would be granted Spanish nationality. Even so, I don't really have a problem with it.
    Does it not run contrary to the entire point of international football if you can change your nationality for the sole purpose of being eligible to play for that nation? If Januzaj did choose England [and almost comically no one actually knows whether he would want to so this is phenomenally premature] it would just seem manufactured and wrong, and though not all that far from the likes of Barnes in terms of age he wasn't already a footballer when the decision was made to move here and so the move was made for reasons other than football.

    Granted it isn't all that common now it is something I can see becoming more common in the future unless the rules were changed. I guess it would be near impossible to know for sure the reasons, and maybe a far from ideal answer would be to have a cut off for eligibility once you become a professional footballer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coutinho Is Boss View Post
    Does it not run contrary to the entire point of international football if you can change your nationality for the sole purpose of being eligible to play for that nation? If Januzaj did choose England [and almost comically no one actually knows whether he would want to so this is phenomenally premature] it would just seem manufactured and wrong, and though not all that far from the likes of Barnes in terms of age he wasn't already a footballer when the decision was made to move here and so the move was made for reasons other than football.

    Granted it isn't all that common now it is something I can see becoming more common in the future unless the rules were changed. I guess it would be near impossible to know for sure the reasons, and maybe a far from ideal answer would be to have a cut off for eligibility once you become a professional footballer.
    I think international football already has a problem with a lack of interest being there so looking at this as a sign that international football is being contradicted or will go on to lose its importance is probably a bit late in the day! I'd also suggest that a lot of people take not much pride in the England team currently and that is based on nothing to do with nationality, mainly based on the make-up of those players currently involved (their character) and also with the shit standard of football played/recycled.

    Let's say Januzaj does choose England and goes on to play for them for ten years; that'd mean he has been in England or at least representing England, longer than nearly anywhere else he has been in his life so could you tell him he should feel less part of England than on say something that was never in his control (ie where he was born)?

    Five years is a very long time and it's only going to happen for players of very high talent I imagine. A window of five years should give even the more modest talents of ready qualified English players a chance to establish themselves.

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    I know this will be hard to define, but it should be about the original "intention". When they give some foreigners name as example against Jack, I believe, those people weren't here just to play sports and then discover, oh, I can play for England now, let's do it for England or UK. They most probably have been in England for generations, or they were born in England, or the whole family moved to England for one reason or another. But with Januzaj, his one and only intention is to make a career of playing football, he could have gone to Spain or Germany. And right now it's just some journalist trying to make a big deal out of it.

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    The hilarious part of Wilsheres statement is the 'Remember who we are, tackle hard and shit'. Ididnt know people still hadthat mindset. Being hard to beat hasnt won England anything since before Jacks father was born. Wheelchair should worry more about how he is going to convince Roy to breakup the famous partnership of Gerrard and Lumphard.

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