Top 4 head to head

[Letters]

1	Chelsea	6	5	1	0	4	1	13	2	+11	16	2.67
2	Manchester City	6	2	1	3	0	1	12	11	+1	7	1.17
3	Liverpool	6	2	0	4	0	2	10	11	-1	6	1.00
4	Arsenal	6	1	2	3	2	2	7	18	-11	5	0.83

Interesting. Chelsea miles ahead, and yet they're still relying on other teams slipping to win the league.
And while we're 'bottom' of the mini-league it's only a couple of points in it.
For all Liverpool's brilliance at times this year they've still lost 4 of the 6 head to heads.

I'm not sure what point I'm making really, I guess it's that the '6 pointers', while important, aren't the be all and end all.

[Özim]

1	Chelsea	6	5	1	0	4	1	13	2	+11	16	2.67
2	Manchester City	6	2	1	3	0	1	12	11	+1	7	1.17
3	Liverpool	6	2	0	4	0	2	10	11	-1	6	1.00
4	Arsenal	6	1	2	3	2	2	7	18	-11	5	0.83

Interesting. Chelsea miles ahead, and yet they're still relying on other teams slipping to win the league.
And while we're 'bottom' of the mini-league it's only a couple of points in it.
For all Liverpool's brilliance at times this year they've still lost 4 of the 6 head to heads.

I'm not sure what point I'm making really, I guess it's that the '6 pointers', while important, aren't the be all and end all.

Your point would make sense if we weren't out of the title race whilst all the other teams were. We've been out of the title race for a while now in fact, maybe not mathematically bu realistically.

[AKBapologist]

It became mathematically impossible for us to win the league a week or two ago.

[Letters]

Your point would make sense if we weren't out of the title race whilst all the other teams were.

That's pretty much exactly why the point makes sense. Liverpool are more likely to win it than Chelsea, Chelsea have got excellent results in the 6 pointers but dropped silly points elsewhere, Liverpool have poor results in those games - only getting one more point than us over the season - but have done the business elsewhere.

[Özim]

That's pretty much exactly why the point makes sense. Liverpool are more likely to win it than Chelsea, Chelsea have got excellent results in the 6 pointers but dropped silly points elsewhere, Liverpool have poor results in those games - only getting one more point than us over the season - but have done the business elsewhere.

Liverpool have got two wins however two big wins in the run in, the most important time to get them, which make all the difference, in the run in we've collapsed and got thrashed.

The context of the defeats is important, as is the manner and the manner of ours has been, let's be honest, shameful.

[selassie]

1	Chelsea	6	5	1	0	4	1	13	2	+11	16	2.67
2	Manchester City	6	2	1	3	0	1	12	11	+1	7	1.17
3	Liverpool	6	2	0	4	0	2	10	11	-1	6	1.00
4	Arsenal	6	1	2	3	2	2	7	18	-11	5	0.83

Interesting. Chelsea miles ahead, and yet they're still relying on other teams slipping to win the league.
And while we're 'bottom' of the mini-league it's only a couple of points in it.
For all Liverpool's brilliance at times this year they've still lost 4 of the 6 head to heads.

I'm not sure what point I'm making really, I guess it's that the '6 pointers', while important, aren't the be all and end all.

Looks like it's going to go down to Goal difference this year, if City and it's a big IF, win at Everton next Saturday then I fancy them to take the title, if not Liverpool should do it.

Whilst there are only a couple of points in it regarding us being bottom of the mini league it's the manner of the defeats, we got our arses whipped against the other 3, the Chelsea and Liverpool away games were over after 15 minutes. I think if we would of lost these games 1-0 or 2-0 then the calling of "Wenger's head" and the "collapse" type threads wouldn't even exist.

[Letters]

Whilst there are only a couple of points in it regarding us being bottom of the mini league it's the manner of the defeats.

Agree with that.

I'm not arguing these games aren't important but it's received wisdom that you can't do poorly in these games and win the title and while it makes it harder Liverpool are still top having performed very poorly in these games.

[LDG]

I think we've been slightly unlucky in the way the games have fallen. We had two bitchy runs where we had to play 3 or 4 big games on the trot. My point being that if you cock one up, the pressure builds and your subsequent games suffer.

But it seems pretty clear, that our chances of winning the league, or at least challenging, hangs on the 6 pointers against our "rivals".

Quite simply, we were poor against all three away from home. Tactically naive, gutless and outplayed.

[Letters]

Quite simply, we were poor against all three away from home. Tactically naive, gutless and outplayed.

I thought we played well up at City and had the reffing been competent it would have been closer.
In the other games though we were hopeless, you can chalk one up as 'one of those days' but for it to happen again really isn't good enough.

[Niall_Quinn]

I thought we played well up at City and had the reffing been competent it would have been closer.
In the other games though we were hopeless, you can chalk one up as 'one of those days' but for it to happen again really isn't good enough.

We were hopeless against Liverpool and Everton, fast asleep and deservedly trounced.

Against the gypos the officials were bent and modified the score, we deserved at least a draw in that one, both defences were shite and we were cutting the up just as easily as they were doing it to us. Liverpool did the same to them a couple of weeks back - they are overhyped shit, especially Kompany who has made more mistakes this year than Kolo. They may buy their way to a title because they have 3 multi million quid players for every position so they aren't affected by injuries and suspensions. Even then, if they do it they'll only scrape it, which is laughable and demonstrates clearly what a joke they are.

Against the chavs they hit a 1 in 100 moment where two of their nothing shitty strikers managed to get something on target, doubt it has happened since. Then the reffing farce where the wrong player was sent off and down to 10 you can't draw any conclusions.

Our worst 2 results, the draw vs Everton - started the downturn - and the 3-0 defeat against them, showed most of the players we have aren't up to the challenge and that's a problem that won't be overcome easily. Also showed the manager up as being negative, like a mild form of Mourinho cancer - trying to kill a game just because it can be killed, instead of going out to grab it and win it.