
Originally Posted by
Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
I've got zero respect for the statement you've just made. Whilst I disagree with you a lot, you at least are capable of constructing sensible well thought out arguments.
Wenger is a has been who doesn't have it at the top level anymore, but all this stuff about him being a Fraud and totally useless are to be honest emotional arguments made by fans (including me I'll admit) who have grown tired of the shitshow we have witnessed.
It doesn't change my mind that I want him to go but he got it right today, how much of that was him and how much of it was the players deciding finally to show a little bit of pride is unknown. Is Guardiola somewhat overrated and similar to Wenger in that he is stubborn and only plays one way? Yes of course but the guy still won six league titles and two European cups to try and make out that's nothing or that it means nothing because of the sides he has managed that's just bizarre.
Guardiola has had a poor first season with City and this probably tops it off, but I wouldn't say City played badly today and arguably were unlucky due to having a goal disallowed which shouldn't have been.
Wenger although he's applying this logic falsely and wrongly to himself is quite right when he says people are very quick to make judgements in the short term.