Wenger Out?

[Cripps_orig]

All this run has done is make Wenger think that this team has it and therefore will not buy the quality we need during the summer

And we will go around in circles again next season, same as this season and the last and the last and so on.

[fakeyank]

Wengers biggest is to con the people that next year will be better than this. He has done this for 8 seasons in a row now and we still dont see the road beyond the smokescreen. A majority seem to suffer the battered wife syndrome, where they feel it is better to stick with the pain than try the big bad world out there. I appreciate the positive results in the last month, but what about the crap the preceded it?. We were once 15th in the league 3 months or so into the season. Wenger digs us into a great hole and we stand marvelling and cheering as he scrapes his way out of it. Sure he hates losing but does winning really mean everthing to him. every season we spend more energy running to simply stay in the same spot. Is this what we believe is our lot. We stick with Wenger because he has done good in the past. He knows it and the board know it and the con game continues. Start of the season Wenger tells us he wants to win everything. By Xmas he tells us 4th is a trophy, by Easter we are out of everything. All we then say is next season. It is a crock. Remember a time when we used to go to OT and win?........Now we are like the spuds who have to mentally consign 6 points to the Mancs at the start of each season. Aston Villa, Forest can point to CL trophies, but our so called greatest manager ever just wants to qualify each year. Sure we can keep Wenger and expend more energy fending off the Spuds the hapless Reds and the Clueless blues. But rest assured Man City are here to stay. If Mancini bottles it this season I can bet you a handful of 50s that he will be sacked. There are better managers out there and if we hold on the the delusion that Wenger will lead us to the promised land we will miss out on them and spend possibly 30 years of our energetic years wondering how it never happened in our lifetimes.

Top fucking post mate.. the battered wife syndrome is exactly how most fans are now.

[Coney]

Not in the same way as it is when we're trying to win something no, against Spurs they were expected to win...at 2-0 down we had nothing to lose and yes we showed great fight but in reality it was from a no pressure situation.

Yesterday's result was great in the end, but I don't think we were under great pressure, 4th place is the goal not 3rd.

Crap. To make sure we get 4th, we have to win to stay ahead of Chavs. Getting 3rd would be even better but a draw would put us in peril of chavs catching us.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Thought we were discussing a big club here where its board members have become rotten spoil by fans buying tickets and attending games no matter how much they showed disregard for fans' pride and bragging rights.

We are but do protests even work, i don't think so, look at UTD who's fans did the yellow and green scarf nonsense and that failed, so what chance would we have with a baord who don't seem to care.

Unless a new man takes over the club completely or we have 1 owner not much will change with this board that just how it is.

[Özim]

Crap. To make sure we get 4th, we have to win to stay ahead of Chavs. Getting 3rd would be even better but a draw would put us in peril of chavs catching us.

A draw would have kept us ahead anyway.

[Letters]

Why is Zimm a glory hunter?

Because he only cares about the final result of a season. And he only judges that by what trophies we have or haven't won. If you follow a club through the journey of a season with all its ups and downs then you'll know that a season can be very enjoyable even if you don't win anything and it can be pretty rubbish but end up with a trophy which makes it bearable.

I am super happy with how the last few games have gone... however am I feeling over the moon thinking things have changed? Do I think we have turned the corner? NO! We have had too many false dawns with this manager.

That's a reasonable position and you may well be right. The rest of this season will go some way to showing whether you're right or not.

[Coney]

A draw would have kept us ahead anyway.

... and right in range. We need clear water between us. There are a lot of games to play yet. If this was the last week of the season, that would be different.

[Özim]

All this run has done is make Wenger think that this team has it and therefore will not buy the quality we need during the summer

And we will go around in circles again next season, same as this season and the last and the last and so on..

Agree with this, the last thing we wanted if for him to think all is good which he will do after a mini run, he always does.

He just seems to be able to forget everything that has gone before after a few good results, I've never seen a manager who can discount all the defeats and poor results like Wenger does and just change his mind so quickly after a short run of wins.

[Marc Overmars]

"Battered wife syndrome"

[Letters]

Not in the same way as it is when we're trying to win something no, against Spurs they were expected to win...at 2-0 down we had nothing to lose and yes we showed great fight but in reality it was from a no pressure situation.

Yesterday's result was great in the end, but I don't think we were under great pressure, 4th place is the goal not 3rd.

I see. So it's only when we lose a 'high pressure' game that you deem it high pressure.
If we'd have lost last night people would have been VERY quick to say we 'bottled it' (there was a post in the match thread before the game predicting we would if Spurs lost). Even if 4th place is the goal then Chelsea's win at the weekend put pressure on last night.