Originally Posted by Punchinello Beezo
*enters rant mode.

Some of you guys make me fucking sick by the way, you moan we dont buy anyone but then wont wait for the window to open for us to sign anyone, when we do sign someone you will undoubtedly moan they are shit and its all a joke and so on before they have even kicked a ball in the shirt. We could sign Messi and you would still fuckin moan Wenger isnt changing his ways. Any player we bring in you have already decided you wont like because you dont like/want this manager and therefore will empart all hatred of him onto anything he does.

I genuinely wonder what you will do if Wenger pulls one out of his rather dusty magic hat, would you swallow your pride and admit he had done well? No of course not you will claim someone else within the club engineered as Wenger can no longer do any right at all.

Seriously if something brings you that much misery and despair why entertain it? You wouldnt keep watching a film or a stageshow that made you angry and drove you to the depths of depression like you claim watching this team does. I mean i hate swimming for instance, it makes me feel icky and wierd, so you know what i do? I keep my hairy arse out the pool.

I think 3 titles, 4 FA cups, a solid financial base and the best stadium in britain could buy the man who gave us the invincibles 9 weeks to buy some players for fucks sake.

*and breathe
Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
Flavs...I can't speak for everyone but I'm personally done with Wenger.

I've nothing personal against him, it's not hatred, I respect him for what he's done in the past but for now he's lost my trust, I don't think he has it in him to change things.

Look I'll happily swallow my pride and be the first one to put my hands up and say I'm wrong if he makes respectable moves in the market but I really don't think he will. 5 years of this is just too much, it's like watching your Wife or Girlfriend repeatedly cheat on you but her tell you she won't do it again.

It's not even about him not buying players. He needs to buy the right ones, we need players that can upgrade the team now not in 2 or 3 seasons time.

He's also got a job trying to convince a quarter of the current First Choice team to stay, he has a lot of work to do this summer and he has to get it right.
@ Flavs

First I think you have to separate the moaners from the realists. I consider myself to be the latter. I have got over my horror at our end of season implosion - and am merely appraising our situation objectively. There is no doubt whatsoever that in terms of a destination club, in terms of the likelihood of us winning the league, we have dropped out of the very top tier in English football. Last season was, frankly, our last chance to show that we, as a club that last won the league 7 years ago could claim still to have what it takes to be regarded in that top tier, and we blew it. Spectacularly.

Now, even the most optimistic Gooner would admit that it would be a big surprise if the manager wins a major trophy next season. It would be a very nice surprise, but a surprise nevertheless.

Our position has a great deal to do with the unlimited funds available to the Chavs and Citeh - that affect us both directly in terms of competition for league points, but also in terms of our ability to compete for the best players in the transfer window. Its sad for us. But there it is. No drama.

Turning to the manager, it is quite correct to attack those who are treating him with such disrespect. As Darth Vela says elsewhere, we would do well to remember that the focus of fans' ire also happens to be the reason why we have remained a 'top 4' if not a 'big 4' club for all these years. He is the reason why our club is on the TV every other week - reason enough to be grateful, IMHO.

But I do not think that Gooners who now believe his time is up should be criticised. Unfortunately, managers will always be judged on the present, not the past. And we all know that at any other big club he would have gone some time ago. He has been rewarded with patience for his unparalleled success with us, and he has made few friends with his failure to address what appear to be very basic failings in the team.

We know he will be buying players this Summer. We know that they will be decent players. The scepticism exists because of past experience. People might be impatient, but it is not as wholly unjustified as you suggest.