
Originally Posted by
Charlie the Gooner
If he diid not care he would not look defeated simple he just give 1 or 2 excues ans be done with it.
I not convinced he is happy with 4th just because he says it means nothing.
He has never said it when we were in comps only when e get knocked out of them or look like we may go out.
maybe he needs more motivation for winning but i still say his ambtion to win is there.