Reality

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Are you saying that the fair play rules wont change things? I think they will. Clubs cant make losses like before. And Man City are gonna make huge losses if they pay half their team £10million a year.

No, Ach is saying Yes we spent money to win the league mancs too, but it was not money that some rich fool gave to us it was money we earned through winning cups or through shirt sales etc. Compared to city and Chavs who with out the money would not be where they are today.

But why do we need to grasp it? Do you get brownie points for one instead of the other? In history, a title counts as a title, no matter where the money came from, unless it was proven to be illegal, or unless there were other illegal dealings going on such as the Serie A match-fixing scandal which stripped Juve of 2 titles and relegated them.

So far, however distasteful, both Man City and Chelsea's title wins have been just as legal as Man U's, whether one chairman had 800 million to spend or 80 million. I've long since got used to it and I'm not really that bothered by it. It is what it is, and while its legally allowed by FIFA/UEFA, whinging about it makes us look bitter and envious, even though we may not be.

Your still missing the point. As i said above Without the Money City and chavs would not have won these things its that simple. Chavs and City were not rich before their owners came and they did not have the money to win the league or CL its that simple.

Yes Chavs were lucky but with a shite team do you think they would have won that game. If City had the squad they had 5 years ago this season would they have won the league.


Yes UTD spent money to win the league i get that and you have too. They did it though money they earned not with money they got from some rich fool who don't give a shit about the club really.