Is Wenger stale or is it us?

[LDG]

Lol

[Master Splinter]

The Internet .

[Power n Glory]

The problem is, your posts, much like Fakeyank's, don't make any sense. When you start making up shit or using hyperbole, it completely undermines anything you're trying to say.
So if you feel you're being patronised, it's not because you think Wenger should go, it's because you're a fucking idiot.

You're a funny dude. When was the last time you've actually tried debating a point without sarcasm, shit stirring, name calling or whatever else. Instead of attacking the point and trying to have a decent debate, you attack and insult the poster.
You can't be taken seriously either.

[GP]

You're a funny dude.

Thanks, that's nice of you to say.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Really now, is that your best line? You and the rest Wenger cock suckers have no place trying to label anyone as mentally retarded sir.

Really? Coming from someone who thinks a 'your mom' line is funny?

[Power n Glory]

You bastards keep hijacking good threads. Piss off if you can't play nicely!

[gunnerrrrr]

This occured to me after my debate with Falvs on the other thread.

There's been much (and some justified) criticism of Wenger, his methods, philosophy and motivation.

He's been accused of being stuck in his ways; unable to adapt and lacking ideas, and the feeling is that we're stagnating as a club and that our manager is stale.

But I wonder whether this is really the case? The tactical 'naivity' that we complain about; the focus on his team rather than the opposition; the stubborn adherence to his methods have always been his hallmarks - he hasn't changed. We talk about the rest of the league catching him up - and they have - but is this not more a case of other clubs making the most of the information and methods available than Wenger taking his eye off the ball.

I suppose that you could say that the reason we've fallen down the pecking order is nothing whatsoever to do with lack of ideas/motivation. Its the simple fact that more money=better players.

On the other hand - faced with a changing football landscape, we fans are suffering from shattered illusions; the humbling feeling of no longer being top dogs and the corrosive effect of transfer seasons made depressing because of want-away talent. And as fans, we are talking ourselves into a bleaker outlook that the situation merits.

Is it us that are getting stale rather than Wenger?

0 Trophies.
For those of us that actually attend games, we pay the most in the whole premiership. This alone is a joke.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Why is 0 trophies the issue for you. I attend the matches and really, on match day, my biggest priority is to see a good fricken game for my 35-70 quid.

[Globalgunner]

Because 0 trophies IS an issue and is the cusp of this thread. There are a bunch of zealots like you on this forum who seem to think it is their sworn duty to attack anyone who criticises wenger with demented fury. Can you hear yourself no trophies, no problem. If you are happy Be happy, i did not realise this forum was intended only to appeal to the IWWT (In Wenger We trust) acolytes. If so you should change the furum name to Wengerbots only. so anyone with a different persusasion can give it a bye.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Because 0 trophies IS an issue and is the cusp of this thread. There are a bunch of zealots like you on this forum who seem to think it is their sworn duty to attack anyone who criticises wenger with demented fury. Can you hear yourself no trophies, no problem. If you are happy Be happy, i did not realise this forum was intended only to appeal to the IWWT (In Wenger We trust) acolytes. If so you should change the furum name to Wengerbots only. so anyone with a different persusasion can give it a bye.

I want him replaced - have stated so since August 2010 - because his time has passed - so get it right.

Not calling Wenger every name under the sun and cursing him as the worst thing ever to have happened to the Club equates to being a zealot. Look at the post I quoted, see my response, then look elsewhere in the thread for the demented fury.

My point is in response to a matchgoer and his perspective - I'm a matchgoer as well and on the day of the match, my primary concern is that I enjoy the game I've just forked out £35-£70 for. Yeah. Real demented fury that.