Nuri Sahin

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Well we're approaching the end of the transfer window so it's a bit of gamble to be thinking purely in economic terms. If this was the middle of the window, fair enough there would probably be enough time to find another player who offers more value for money. At this stage, perhaps fears about paying over the odds should be relegated to a secondary consideration. And anyway, £8-10M isn't a huge outlay. It's not as if we're looking to sign a £30M player.

Which is why We wanted a perm deal if reports are belived to be true, which would have made more sense if they want all that money for a loan.

[Grebbo]

Why the fuck should be spalsh 8-10 mill on a loan when we might as well have bought him for 14 then.

But we couldn't have bought him for £14m, he's never been for sale!

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Assuming it is £8-10m of course.

I've seen an equal number saying £2m fee plus the wages, which would probably be at about 40 weeks so ~£3-4m.

In other words, nobody knows the details.

[Joker]

Which is why We wanted a perm deal if reports are belived to be true, which would have made more sense if they want all that money for a loan.

We didn't want a permanent deal, we wanted an option to buy at the end of the loan. The problem seems to be that Liverpool were willing to pay a greater proportion of his wages, which seems feasible given that we're notoriously stingy when it comes to wages. Remember Arteta had to take a wage CUT to come to Arsenal.

[LDG]

Assuming it is £8-10m of course.

I've seen an equal number saying £2m fee plus the wages, which would probably be at about 40 weeks so ~£3-4m.

In other words, nobody knows the details.

Not listening!!!!

I want to run around screaming.

[Grebbo]

We didn't want a permanent deal, we wanted an option to buy at the end of the loan. The problem seems to be that Liverpool were willing to pay a greater proportion of his wages, which seems feasible given that we're notoriously stingy when it comes to wages. Remember Arteta had to take a wage CUT to come to Arsenal.

And Cesc had to take a wage cut to join Barca. We offered RVP £5m signing on fee and £160k per week.

We're only stingy with wages compared to Shitty, Manure, Cheatski and RM.

[Özim]

From being a decent summer, suddenly it's becoming an average one. I'm pleased with the signings we've made, however having sold 2 first teamers including the guy who basically carried the team last season and was our best player our need for a couple more signings is pretty high.

Not long left to sort things out and it's very feasible we could end up with noone else which would be a massive disappointment and would leave us almost where we were last season

Sahin may not have been available on the terms we wanted, but couldn't we have found this out at the start rather than hanging around for so long?

[Olivier's xmas twist]

From being a decent summer, suddenly it's becoming an average one. I'm pleased with the signings we've made, however having sold 2 first teamers including the guy who basically carried the team last season and was our best player our need for a couple more signings is pretty high.

Not long left to sort things out and it's very feasible we could end up with noone else which would be a massive disappointment and would leave us almost where we were last season

Sahin may not have been available on the terms we wanted, but couldn't we have found this out at the start rather than hanging around for so long?

This.

[LDG]

Nope. We should never negotiate!

[Olivier's xmas twist]

But we couldn't have bought him for £14m, he's never been for sale!

Never said he was, i said we may as well have bought him as in tried too.

We didn't want a permanent deal, we wanted an option to buy at the end of the loan. The problem seems to be that Liverpool were willing to pay a greater proportion of his wages, which seems feasible given that we're notoriously stingy when it comes to wages. Remember Arteta had to take a wage CUT to come to Arsenal.

Not oringialy but there were sources Wenger wanted him on a perm deal and he never wanted to leave madrid and this is where the money stuff came into it but like i said souces and not (AFC Camden either).

Remember Arteta had to take a wage CUT to come to Arsenal.

Cesc took a pay cut to leave us whats your point.