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    Sky baiting wenger over second Wilshere yellow. Perfect day for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RomfordPele View Post
    Sky baiting wenger over second Wilshere yellow. Perfect day for them.
    why shouldn't they?

    fergie's management was excellent today. saw cleverly was close to a red and took him off immediately.

    wenger - who has already driven wilshere into the ground once before - tried testing his luck again and it didn't pay off. mind you, our bench is shit so im not sure he had a choice.

    but he did have a choice over the summer and he failed to strengthen.

    you create your own luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiltord's Winner View Post
    why shouldn't they?

    fergie's management was excellent today. saw cleverly was close to a red and took him off immediately.

    wenger - who has already driven wilshere into the ground once before - tried testing his luck again and it didn't pay off. mind you, our bench is shit so im not sure he had a choice.

    but he did have a choice over the summer and he failed to strengthen.

    you create your own luck.

    he should have been off though, so should ****face. one for that tackle, was very very late, and two for the yellow he should have got for kicking ball away after the whistle.

    however we needed jack today more then they needed cleverly because we were losing. he was the only one who actually tried to do things

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    Quote Originally Posted by ollie the optimist View Post
    he should have been off though, so should ****face. one for that tackle, was very very late, and two for the yellow he should have got for kicking ball away after the whistle.

    however we needed jack today more then they needed cleverly because we were losing. he was the only one who actually tried to do things
    Do you really think RVC should have been sent off???! That tackle was a clear yellow, you're never going to get a red for that. And he didn't kick the ball away "after" the whistle, there was hardly any gap between the offside call and the shot.

    And Cleverly was given a warning, as did Jack for his tackle on RVC. We can't complain about the referee, we deserved to lose. If we don't accept that we'll never improve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joker View Post
    Do you really think RVC should have been sent off???! That tackle was a clear yellow, you're never going to get a red for that. And he didn't kick the ball away "after" the whistle, there was hardly any gap between the offside call and the shot.

    And Cleverly was given a warning, as did Jack for his tackle on RVC. We can't complain about the referee, we deserved to lose. If we don't accept that we'll never improve.
    surely a yellow card is a warning though. im not saying jack shouldnt have gone, he should, however cleverlys was a bad tackle. a final warning should be the yellow card really but if you are going to warn a player after that, at least make sure its not when it is a stonewall yellow card foul.

    and yes rvc shoud have gone for two yellows. it was a long gap imo. seen players booked for less.

    however i haven't blamed the defeat at all on the ref. ive just said he was shit, he was, but i also said we were shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by ollie the optimist View Post
    surely a yellow card is a warning though. im not saying jack shouldnt have gone, he should, however cleverlys was a bad tackle. a final warning should be the yellow card really but if you are going to warn a player after that, at least make sure its not when it is a stonewall yellow card foul.

    and yes rvc shoud have gone for two yellows. it was a long gap imo. seen players booked for less.

    however i haven't blamed the defeat at all on the ref. ive just said he was shit, he was, but i also said we were shit
    Yep. Referee doesn't give cards to Cleverley or RvC, then books Arshavin for his first tackle.

    Officials were shocking and cost us a point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm View Post
    Yep. Referee doesn't give cards to Cleverley or RvC, then books Arshavin for his first tackle.

    Officials were shocking and cost us a point.
    i forget that they missed the offside that led to the second goal.

    we were shit, we lost because of htat, however the ref didnt help. he was fucking awful. (stil we were worse)

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    No point analysing this game because it didn't involve us, we weren't in it. Walk in the park for Utd, they didn't get out of first gear. Should have been five or six but they were sloppy. A late and meaningless flourish from us made it look unreasonably respectable. Gulf in quality, tactics and desire between these teams. We can't be viewed as a serious football team if we let individuals like Santos wear the shirt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ollie the optimist View Post
    surely a yellow card is a warning though. im not saying jack shouldnt have gone, he should, however cleverlys was a bad tackle. a final warning should be the yellow card really but if you are going to warn a player after that, at least make sure its not when it is a stonewall yellow card foul.

    and yes rvc shoud have gone for two yellows. it was a long gap imo. seen players booked for less.

    however i haven't blamed the defeat at all on the ref. ive just said he was shit, he was, but i also said we were shit
    Dean's a **** and we knew that before today, and we all expected crummy decisions from him, not a shock. We were poor today even if the scoreline says something else.

    But hey time to put that behind us and on to wednesday i guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiltord's Winner View Post
    why shouldn't they?

    fergie's management was excellent today. saw cleverly was close to a red and took him off immediately.

    wenger - who has already driven wilshere into the ground once before - tried testing his luck again and it didn't pay off. mind you, our bench is shit so im not sure he had a choice.

    but he did have a choice over the summer and he failed to strengthen.

    you create your own luck.
    I think the observation was:

    a.) the relish the interviewer showed in doing it; and
    b.) the palpable lack of respect they showed wenger in the process

    You can say Wenger's fault for the shite he's come out with over the years, but don't think you'd ever catch a journo behave that way to red nose.

    Minor point maybe, sour grapes possibly on my part - but if you're a ref making a 50/50 decision surely it's a no-brainer to swing behind the decision sky are going to endorse.

    Happens time and time again. Didn't matter today, but will do over course of the season.

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