Match reaction vs the Mancs

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Some fans will continue to support Wenger even if he makes us into a mid-table side, and blame our demise on referees, oil money, bad luck, greedy players etc.

So, thats their problem. Just cause you don't, don't mean others should not, don't agree with it but its up to them.

[Özim]

I think the shape of the team is generally better (although today was not the best example) but we have some awful error prone defenders. It's not something you can legislate for.

At the end of the day we cherry pick these defenders, if we knew what we were doing we'd sign players who are more reliable and not so error prone.

Problem is we always look for a cheap fix to major problems in the team, this is the result of that. Sometimes you get lucky and find someone top notch, most of the time you end up with error prone cr*p.

[RomfordPele]

Sky baiting wenger over second Wilshere yellow. Perfect day for them.

[cheesy bites]

not one player in that team stepped out onto that pitch with the belief that they could win.

Nailed it. There's been this air of fear and resignation to defeat around this team for too long. You'll get some games (like the mental Reading game) where we have the balls to fight back, but too often we just accept our lot and shuffle off with a defeat.

[Özim]

So, thats their problem. Just cause you don't, don't mean others should not, don't agree with it but its up to them.

It is our problem them because as long as people don't turn against him he'll have a greater chance of staying on...and who the f*ck want that?

[Olivier's xmas twist]

have to agre about the Wenger part, it hurts us all to admit how much he has lost it

[jelgoon]

Gary Neville saying we wont win the league. Manc **** -so biased never liked us. Of course we have a massive chance of winning the league. Remember we have Diaby to come back

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Some fans will continue to support Wenger even if he makes us into a mid-table side, and blame our demise on referees, oil money, bad luck, greedy players etc.

the first step towards reality is acceptance. unfortunately too many of our fans are unwilling to accept that beloved wenger is not good enough and hasn't been for years.

[Niall_Quinn]

Some fans will continue to support Wenger even if he makes us into a mid-table side, and blame our demise on referees, oil money, bad luck, greedy players etc.

Didnt you see what colour shirt RvC was wearing today? How do you factor that into your one dimensional assessment? Do you really believe we'd be up there competing if only Wenger would ring you up for the team selection and tactics? there's more to it than your crayola analysis.

[LDG]

Totally delusional, I don't know if it's blind faith or just stupidity.

The guy's repuation is shattered IMO, he's failed to deliver season after season and every season it's the same nothing changes...yes he jumps up and down on the sidelines and waves his arms up and down in his penguin suit, but what does that actually mean when the guy won't change the losing formula at any cost?

Zimm. Wenger is not a shit manager. For the love of God.

He is a fucking legend, and that should never ever be doubted. He bought the club forward. And managed to keep us champs league with no money. Simple. He is bloody awesome.

BUT. He has played to many games of chance. We are fucked unless something massuve happens at the club. He is too attached to the board. Too attached to the business model. Too attached to his players. Too stubborn. Too arrogant. And too far gone to change it around.

We are utterly unable to change anything at this stinking club. I'm so gutted.

To hear those fans, singing "we love you Arsenal" for 15 mins straight. And nothing will change.

Gutted.