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    Quote Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE View Post
    What's there to be proud of when most of them have achieved didly squat in their careers as professional footballers?? Practically all of them can count their trophy hauls with one hand- and none of them have made any significant impact internationally. I'd find it hard to be proud with this sort of record- or should finishing at the bottom half of the 4 man league qualifying for the CL every year be what we expect to motivate them?? Or would it be their amazingly gallant defeat to Birmingham in the CC final that should do this??

    Let's be honest, its silly to think our current crop of players will self-motivate themselves with their average personal achievements that really can't differentiate them from any of the players we recently faced from Swansea, Villa or Everton.

    Only one person in our current setup has something to be proud of; he's the only one that was world acclaimed, that can truly boast that he is better than imaginary 4th place trophies, losing a final to relegation fodder and being 10th after a 1/3 of the season is gone. He's actually the one who most unbiased observers would hold responsible for the motivation we are now speaking of. Even the players would say he was the one who recruited them on the premise that they were better than what they had achieved prior to joining us, and what they have achieved these past 7 years( I mean he tells us that publicly everyday, no??). Only he had/ has the power to recruit (something he has never done) or just even retain the few self-motivated player we have had that could show records of personal success ( Vieira, Henry, TheWhore, Fab, RVP etc.). But in his wisdom he chose and still chooses not to.

    He keeps saying he hasn't changed and this is the system that has worked for him and he has used since day one when he joined the club. To be fair to him, he is right. I just think he and a lot of fans were so deluded that they never realised that a main reason he was able to motivate no-name players to regular winners and challengers then was that he already had a solid foundation of proven winners/leaders who knew the turf then and when the last of Graham's men left, so did all the success and proven motivators in Arsenal- at least on the pitch.
    What's there to be proud of when most of them have achieved didly squat in their careers as professional footballers?? Practically all of them can count their trophy hauls with one hand- and none of them have made any significant impact internationally. I'd find it hard to be proud with this sort of record- or should finishing at the bottom half of the 4 man league qualifying for the CL every year be what we expect to motivate them?? Or would it be their amazingly gallant defeat to Birmingham in the CC final that should do this??
    I never said anything about being proud of what they won. Im saying show pride in themselves, show they can be as good as the rest. Too many players like to talk a good game and don't back it up.

    No point saying we can win the league then have a shocker in the next few games.
    Last edited by Olivier's xmas twist; 02-12-2012 at 05:40 PM.
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