Koscielny

[Özim]

Chesney would not have got there first, he wasn't even in the frame until after Dzeko's already been hauled down.

100% red, like I say the read the rules at half time and confirmed it.

Looks worse everytime I see it.

[Xhaka Can’t]

I just don't get how you can say that, he hauled him down in the penalty area and held onto to him....100% red.

It wasn't an obvious red - it wasn't an obvious not red. It is an area of discretion - the ref could have gone either way.

[Özim]

It wasn't an obvious red - it wasn't an obvious not red. It is an area of discretion - the ref could have gone either way.

I can't agree, I've seen loads it and that's a penalty and red in my book, he clearly stops Dzeko getting to the ball by grabbing hold of him with both arms and hauling him down.

Ref made the decision and the pundits agreed, if you follow the laws of the game then he had to be sent off.

[Niall_Quinn]

It wasn't an obvious red - it wasn't an obvious not red. It is an area of discretion - the ref could have gone either way.

Not really, it was mike dean.

[Xhaka Can’t]

I can't agree, I've seen loads it and that's a penalty and red in my book, he clearly stops Dzeko getting to the ball by grabbing hold of him with both arms and hauling him down.

Ref mad the decision and the pundits agreed, if you follow the laws of the game then he had to be sent off.

Like I implied, I'm not prepared to die in a ditch arguing either way on this decision. He is sent off - I've no complaint even though a penalty provided the most obvious remedy for this.

[Boss]

i have. chesney would have got there first. penalty yes, red card no,

Pretty much.

For all those splaffing about how it was a guaranteed red card etc, when was the last time you saw a red card given for grappling like that in the box? Never.

Penalty and nothing else should have been the correct decision, the only thing sad is that we're apparently not big enough of a club anymore to get a clear bias in our favour at home.

[Marc Overmars]

I did think it was a harsh red given that although it was a foul and penalty, you don't often see those awarded so to get a red as well was a surprise.

I like Kos but good lord he is prone to some fuck ups.

[Kano]

Today he made another calamitous error in the penalty area and from what I've seen his career with us has been littered with these, more often than not these also lead to goals.

IMO he's not good enough for this level as he doesn't seem to be able to concentrate for 90 minutes and makes some horrendous errors (more than a good defender should IMO), just curious as to what the opinion is on him...do people think he's good enough or not?

No, no problem with him doing that today because defenders do it every week and it becomes a case of whether the ref see's it or not.

I have more of a problem with defenders switching off, or bad positioning or terrible decision making.

This is really not something to hammer him with after this game.

There are better defenders out there of course but he is far from a terrible defender.

[Niall_Quinn]

No, no problem with him doing that today because defenders do it every week and it becomes a case of whether the ref see's it or not.

I have more of a problem with defenders switching off, or bad positioning or terrible decision making.

This is really not something to hammer him with after this game.

There are better defenders out there of course but he is far from a terrible defender.

Which is not to say that if he applies himself and works hard he couldn't become a terrible defender one day.

[Özim]

No, no problem with him doing that today because defenders do it every week and it becomes a case of whether the ref see's it or not.

I have more of a problem with defenders switching off, or bad positioning or terrible decision making.

This is really not something to hammer him with after this game.

There are better defenders out there of course but he is far from a terrible defender.

You do see grappling and shirt pulling in the box yes, but not as bad as that...there was no chance of ever getting away with that challenge.

I just think he keeps making those errors which are costly for us, we can't keep giving teams goals and easy chances at goals. I personally think we should start again at the back, the group we have will never make a good defensive unit.