oh i disagree with that, particularly when the margin between the two sides over two games is remarmably wide. both the madrid games, unsurprisingly, showed a gulf between the spanish and english champions and of course we saw dortmund absolutely embarrass city in their own ground, then beat them with their second team. ajax even run rings round them in holland and at the eithad. when the control over the opposition is so apparent (as we have seen ourselves in seasons past when arsenal walk over teams from much lesser leagues), it gives a clear indication of the quality of each team.