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    OK, fair enough. I only looked at the first 2 but they made the point, they are a bit over the top.

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    He'll be great one day, but right now I don't even think he's the best midfielder at Arsenal let alone the rest of the league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    He'll be sold one day, but right now I don't even think he's the best midfielder at Arsenal let alone the rest of the league.
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    In a team brimming with shit it seems odd to be focusing on Wilshere. Who gives a fuck what the media says - their job is to hype everything. What we seem to be saying is Jack is not as good as the media have hyped him to be. What a pointless argument. It's good enough that he's a good young player, loves the club, signed his contract without everyone having to bend over, is often the only player you'll see fronting up to the opposition when the rest have gone into hiding, and so on. Is there any player in the team that brings so much overall? Of course not. Think on it this way, if we didn't have Jack we'd have to call a lower league kid who's just arrived "Mr Arsenal", that's how fucked up things have become at this club.
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    As I said before, his natural ablilities makes him a stand out on the pitch, especially when he's had a good game. It is not hard to see that he's not the average or just a good player.

    Even after the England/Brazil game, he was the player who the Brazilians were impressed by - so much so that, that **** Alves heaped him praise and said he needs to be at Barca.

    There are also other examples where he stands out above every other player. That's part of the measure of a quality player. He just needs to iron out a few kinks and find a way to stay fit, as a kid his age, with such immense talent, needs to be playing as much footie as possible in order to fine tune and master his craft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    In a team brimming with shit it seems odd to be focusing on Wilshere. Who gives a fuck what the media says - their job is to hype everything. What we seem to be saying is Jack is not as good as the media have hyped him to be. What a pointless argument. It's good enough that he's a good young player, loves the club, signed his contract without everyone having to bend over, is often the only player you'll see fronting up to the opposition when the rest have gone into hiding, and so on. Is there any player in the team that brings so much overall? Of course not. Think on it this way, if we didn't have Jack we'd have to call a lower league kid who's just arrived "Mr Arsenal", that's how fucked up things have become at this club.
    It's not just the media though is it, it's his own fans/manager as well.

    I appreciate he works hard and tries and does do some good things, but he has far less influence on a game than say Cesc had at his age, that's not a criticism it's just a point to put his talent/productivity in context.

    Good player with some decent skills at his age, yes, world beater, bit early to predict something like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoringBoringArsenal View Post
    As I said before, his natural ablilities makes him a stand out on the pitch, especially when he's had a good game. It is not hard to see that he's not the average or just a good player.

    Even after the England/Brazil game, he was the player who the Brazilians were impressed by - so much so that, that **** Alves heaped him praise and said he needs to be at Barca.

    There are also other examples where he stands out above every other player. That's part of the measure of a quality player. He just needs to iron out a few kinks and find a way to stay fit, as a kid his age, with such immense talent, needs to be playing as much footie as possible in order to fine tune and master his craft.
    With all due respect, this is the worst Brazil team in 20 years, with a horrendous defence in a friendly it's not exactly a pressure situation where every player is giving it his all. Sure they liked him, Brazilians like players who try to dribble and are offensive, he fits the mould.

    He has ability yes, but he doesn't dictate games or win games at the moment, the odd nice touch and good run and a good work rate, but he's not a playmaker.

    As someone has said, he's not even our best midfielder at the moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga View Post
    With all due respect, this is the worst Brazil team in 20 years, with a horrendous defence in a friendly it's not exactly a pressure situation where every player is giving it his all. Sure they liked him, Brazilians like players who try to dribble and are offensive, he fits the mould.

    He has ability yes, but he doesn't dictate games or win games at the moment, the odd nice tough and good run and a good work rate, but he's not a playmaker.

    As someone has said, he's not even our best midfielder at the moment.
    That's why I say he needs to stay fit so he can play more games over a few seasons and properly master his craft.

    And what that someone said is pretty much their opinion which I don't particularly have to subscribe to. All our midfielders have had woeful games. Take Santi for example, he's never stood out on a rough night has he? Especially against opposition of note. People mention Rosicky, but he's had more than his fair share of howlers, right? Is there any other worth mentioning?


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    As shit as Brazil have become they are still highly respected and feared in everything football, and as big a **** as Alves is, he's still a bit qualified realise top talent.
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    He really isn't a playmaker. Not yet anyway. Maybe that will develop but I haven't seen many occassions where he's spotted a run or played a pass to perfection. He has moments but it's not that often. I think I was more impressed with Wilshere when he played as a winger. He would just glide pass opponents with ease. He was so good outwide I just couldn't imagine him doing much better in the middle because it's more of a passing game and he's so direct.

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