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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Though I don't think we'll have any excuses left if we don't win the cup or even worse fail to finish 4th.
    If that happened, it is likely that Wenger would decide for himself that he could no longer manage Arsenal (for pretty much the same reason that Guardiola decided to leave Barcelona - i.e. he could no longer motivate the Players).

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    Yep, I think Diego Simeone at Atletico would be a good bet too, very similar to Klopp in terms of how he has built up his team with relatively restricted funds.

    Atletico play very good football too and are a geniune match for Barca or Real.

    I do agree that we need to be smart in the selection process when replacing Wenger.
    Simeone would be a good choice IMO, I like the way Athletico play and they have a resilience about them which winning teams need.

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    There's a few good, young(ish) coaches around at the moment - Klopp, Simeone, Conte, Garcia, Martinez, etc - some more attainable than others.

    Klopp would still be my first choice - can't see his patience lasting too much longer in Germany, with his squad getting picked apart by Bayern every year, and I really think we could steal a march on anyone else who might be looking at him, if we start sounding him out now? But Simeone's not a bad shout either - sounds like Athletico are massively in debt, so he might jump at the chance of moving on while his stock is high, and before his squad is sold out from under him?

    Also, if he could bring their striking scout with him, that would be smashing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    Simeone would be a good choice IMO, I like the way Athletico play and they have a resilience about them which winning teams need.
    What Simeone is doing in Spain is impressive. He's going toe to toe with two powerhouse clubs and their holding their own. It would be a damn shame if his team gets picked apart next year because of financial problems.

    He's won a couple of titles in Argentina, but he's the sort of coach we wouldn't bat an eyelid at two/three years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post

    He's won a couple of titles in Argentina, but he's the sort of coach we wouldn't bat an eyelid at two/three years ago.
    I think the type of coach teams go after these days is different. It's about investing in a personality, a philosophy, not necessarily about who has the most +1's on their CV. No one wants a Hiddink type anymore, someone who'll come in for a flying visit then bugger off if it doesn't work right away. It's about a long term vision.

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    It's better to burn out, than to fade away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    I think the type of coach teams go after these days is different. It's about investing in a personality, a philosophy, not necessarily about who has the most +1's on their CV. No one wants a Hiddink type anymore, someone who'll come in for a flying visit then bugger off if it doesn't work right away. It's about a long term vision.
    Like David Moyes!

    That's very true. But I think that's more true for the smaller clubs with potential and not so much for the big boys. I also think most coaches would want a long term deal but the big clubs are too trigger happy.

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    Moyes.

    I should also say someone with at least a bit of tangible success is needed, rather than a complete nobody.

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    Moyes is a strange one, I wouldn't have never chosen him to manage such a big club, he's never won a thing as manager and I don't think his achievements with Everton were that amazing, the only thing you can really praise is his loyalty.

    We'd be looking for someone more dynamic and someone who is more of a winner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Moyes.

    I should also say someone with at least a bit of tangible success is needed, rather than a complete nobody.
    Completely. I have no idea what Fergie was thinking.

    With Simeone, you could at least see he'd won the Europa League and the Copa del Rey. There not the biggest trophies but it's something and within a short space of his appointment. Moyes was with Everton for years and didn't win anything. Over 10 years with that squad and enough time to stamp his own brand of football on that team. Terrible choice for Utd.

    I hope we're not as clueless when it comes to our manager appointment. This is where the Board have to get it right. It's a damn shame we don't have any real football guys on our Board to advise on this. This is why I hope they go for someone with a glowing CV because they'll need solid evidence. Gut calls might not be a good thing when it comes to our lot. What do they really know about football?

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