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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Liverpool lost all 3 away games against the rest of the top 4.

    #justsayin'

    But yeah, we shouldn't be getting humped like we have.
    You're second line is what I was getting at. Losing is one thing but getting humiliated like that across the season is exceptionally bad. Other teams can match the defeat record but even the poor ones realise they have to tighten up at times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kano View Post
    You're second line is what I was getting at. Losing is one thing but getting humiliated like that across the season is exceptionally bad. Teams can match the defeat record but even the poor ones realise they have to tighten up at times.
    It happening 3 times in one season is pretty bad (arguably twice, I thought we played pretty well at City and could have been closer).
    You'd have thought after the 2nd one we'd have approached the 3rd differently.

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    As can be seen, we are only just behind Chelsea, and 800K ahead of Liverpool. Now I know that this ignores transfer spending - and that is where we have a more legitimate claim to have been relative paupers these past few years - but Rogers has spent 100M on transfers since he has been at Liverpool - and while I haven't checked, I would imagine that we have spent at least this much (for these purposes, net spend is irrelevant).
    Other way around - gross spend irrelevant, net spend all important. A negative net spend shows talent going out, negative plus shows talent coming in. In the main. And you don't really need to examine the figures because it's self evident when you see who we sold compared to who we bought. The quality has ebbed away all over the pitch - consequence of funding business operations with player transfers. Should reverse now though, first signs of that being last summer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Other way around - gross spend irrelevant, net spend all important. A negative net spend shows talent going out, negative plus shows talent coming in. In the main. And you don't really need to examine the figures because it's self evident when you see who we sold compared to who we bought. The quality has ebbed away all over the pitch - consequence of funding business operations with player transfers. Should reverse now though, first signs of that being last summer.

    No - for comparative purposes, I think that net spend is irrelevant. Look at it this way - Liverpool have funded player purchases without having to sell the crown jewels. Granted, the financial model is an alternative to ours. But without financial doping they have made effective use of their resources. For me, its where both clubs are now - in light of spending (not sales) that is a valid comparison of our respective achievements.
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