Also, it's accepted there weren't many good performances out there. Monreal, Kos and Merts, Ramsey, Flamini...they weren't at the races today. But one mention of Ozil and we get more people flying to his defence as if we're not seeing something.Originally Posted by Letters
If I'm honest I really wouldn't mind taking a hit on Ozil and getting in that long coveted CDM.
Rosicky has to start playing some games too
If we were to sell Ozil, I think we could get around £30m from a PSG
Still think it's too early. Unlike say a Torres, he hasn't really been hampered by injuries nor does his game rely on pace. It seems to be more confidence issues which I'm hoping can be rectified soon. You usually don't lose that amount of class at that age.
Though to be brutally honest, if offered now it would be enormously hard to resist the Fabregas/Ozil swap that could have happened at the start of the summer.
Fuck Fabregas. The cunt didn't even want to be here.
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Zonal marking - everyone else's zonal marking seems to work better than ours. The basic principle from most teams seems to be the GK and two CD's zonally mark and the rest of the guys are told where to be. As soon as it's in the air the one whose zone it's heading for is making the call.
In our zonal marking system Merts and Kos don't seem to command their zones, it seems to fall to Ches, who's still learning, while the senior players seem to be stuck in concrete. Probably held back by sneaky forwards but you would think they're savvy enough to get into the zone where the ball is going. Arsenal struggle to make a pretty basic concept work when quality teams and pubbers likewise seem to have no trouble.
Ozil - he will come good when we sell him. We would have won the game yesterday with Cesc in his place.
Misplaced balls - Ozil, Ramsey and Sanchez yesterday could have cost us the game and one from Ches cost us the win. The corner we conceded from came about after Ches played a shorter goal kick obviously intended for one of our guys straight down the throat of a City player putting us immediately on the back foot when he could have just booted long where Welbz and Sanchez would have put their guys under pressure. Chambers had to concede the corner and I bet I wasn't the only one who knew what was coming next. Ches mate, cut that shit out of your game until you've learnt how to do it properly.
I know we're meant to be cutting the tippy tappy out but yesterday our guys were too far apart and that's why the balls weren't hitting their targets. It also seems to affect Ozil and Ramsey who don't seem to have adjusted to it yet, but Jack looks well suited to it already.
Flamini - not sure what he could have done about the equaliser. If Ches had left it he would have made the clearance. Thought he had a tidy game for the first hour but should have come off because he was knackered and a borderline liability beyond 70 mins.
Wenger - agree with pretty much everyone here. His decision making is baffling and it's costing us, plus everyone except him it seems knows what he should be doing.
Absolutely fuck Fabregas and his Barca DNA and his Arsenal forever, now I play for the chavs bullshit. Alexis doesn't look like a mercenary to me. Ramsey doesn't look like a mercenary to me. Neither does Jack, or Kos, or Merts or you can go on naming names. We're starting to get an Arsenal team together, not a temporary car park for mercenaries. I'd rather be us than Utd any day. What's happening at Utd is genuinely sad. van Twat has already done more damage than Moyes.
As for Ozil, like Arteta, most of hat he does is simply ignored while every mistake he makes is blow up x10. He was just as good as Ramsey yesterday, which means he was average but a far way from being poor.
The whole problem right now is Wenger. As always, square pegs in round holes. The refusal to have a variety of strategies to counter different opponents. The belief that in a league that has a primary focus of destroying football you can create this perfect machine that outplays everything in front of it. The signing of Welbeck could change things. When Walcott comes back we'll have everything we need to go back to being a pacey counterattacking team. That's where Ozil will shine, and Cazorla and Ramsey and Jack and all those players who are currently standing on each others toes tapping the ball 2 yards.
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Our goals yesterday - pure class. Jack's was right up there with the best goals you'll see. He had complete command of the ball from start to finish, made his decision quickly and executed with total confidence. As for Alexis, he's the complete footballer. How Barca let him go is a mystery, they'll surely miss him. Their loss, our gain.
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Alexis is pure quality, he works so hard and the way he changes direction is great to see.
Agreed. He is obviously very talented but has shown himself to be a passenger more times than he has an effective player for this team.
I'm not sure he's even reached Hleb's level for us yet, he had a similar role and style of play but he managed to manifest that more in the team he played in.
Last edited by Marc Overmars; 14-09-2014 at 08:28 AM.
Well i think because he's our maquis signing in terms of transfer expenditure it's hard to accept that so many of his performances are so poor. The brass tax is that for a player of his reputation he hasn't come close to stamping his authority on the big games the way he should. I don't actually blame Wenger for this either, the guy is just lazy....you can tell he has it in his locker to eviscerate teams with the range and quality of his passing but he shirks away from the responsibility.
I don't believe it's because our style of play doesn't suit him either, i don't think Real Madrid under Mourinho were set up that differently from how we are.
On the flip side there is a tendency for the media to be overly critical of him, his performances were constantly panned in the World Cup when actually aside from Algeria (and no German player particurlarly performed well in that game) i thought he had a good tournament. I think the expectation though is that he should be the star performer in that side, but considering Germany have so many star performers he is not going to stand out like he might have done four years ago.
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